NBA

ilikecheese · October 24, 2019

Connor said:
Almost like he’s a top 5 PG in the league.

Kyrie and Westbrook think they are Batman, when in truth they are both Robin. Sidekicks.

Connor · October 24, 2019

ilikecheese said:
Kyrie and Westbrook think they are Batman, when in truth they are both Robin. Sidekicks.

While true, he’s got to be Batman until KD gets healthy

AmericasToffee · October 24, 2019

ilikecheese said:
Kyrie and Westbrook think they are Batman, when in truth they are both Robin. Sidekicks.

They're both volume scorers.

SerenityNigh · October 24, 2019

AmericasToffee said:
They're both volume scorers.

Modern Wilts, but unlike Westbrook, both Wilt and Kyrie have rings

SerenityNigh · October 24, 2019

ilikecheese said:
6"8" and 285 lbs. The human body wasn't meant to play basketball at that size.

The man needs to lose 40-50 lbs.

Knees can't stand up to it over 82 games.

I'm not as negative on his weight, but he's got to grown into his man's body. Clearly being 300 lbs was really difficult for Shaq. But Barkely did ok being short and fat. Zion's ideal weight may be closer to 275, but he doesn't need to play 250 or less. Plus he still could grow.

Nymzee · October 24, 2019

SerenityNigh said:
I'm not as negative on his weight, but he's got to grown into his man's body. Clearly being 300 lbs was really difficult for Shaq. But Barkely did ok being short and fat. Zion's ideal weight may be closer to 275, but he doesn't need to play 250 or less. Plus he still could grow.

It's not really comparably with someone like Shaq imo. This to me is a problem because he's 280 and can jump like 40 inch which is just such a massive impact on his joints. He'll likely have to go down to about 260 and strengthen his legs more. Apparently he's the third heaviest in the league behind two centres that can't jump.

SerenityNigh · October 24, 2019

Nymzee said:
It's not really comparably with someone like Shaq imo. This to me is a problem because he's 280 and can jump like 40 inch which is just such a massive impact on his joints. He'll likely have to go down to about 260 and strengthen his legs more. Apparently he's the third heaviest in the league behind two centres that can't jump.

Barkley played at 250 in the NBA (allegedly) at 6'6", but it was said he was over 300 lbs in college. Shaq of course was 300+, but he was also 7' (was he 7'2" ?). Zion is much bigger than Barkley ever was, but also not as fat. He's got a lot of both growing and getting fit left to do, but he can easily play nearer his current weight than the suggested 245 or so.

Nymzee · October 24, 2019

SerenityNigh said:
Barkley played at 250 in the NBA (allegedly) at 6'6", but it was said he was over 300 lbs in college. Shaq of course was 300+, but he was also 7' (was he 7'2" ?). Zion is much bigger than Barkley ever was, but also not as fat. He's got a lot of both growing and getting fit left to do, but he can easily play nearer his current weight than the suggested 245 or so.

We’ll just have to disagree on this I think. Zion is one of a kind. The players you listed whilst massive couldn’t jump. As you said Barkley was 30lbs less in the NBA at Zion’s height. He’ll keep getting impact injuries.

Was listening to Richard Jefferson say once knee injuries start early they tend to persist for life. Be a shame if his NBA career is just an injury fest.

SerenityNigh · October 25, 2019

Nymzee said:
We’ll just have to disagree on this I think. Zion is one of a kind. The players you listed whilst massive couldn’t jump. As you said Barkley was 30lbs less in the NBA at Zion’s height. He’ll keep getting impact injuries.

Was listening to Richard Jefferson say once knee injuries start early they tend to persist for life. Be a shame if his NBA career is just an injury fest.

Some parts I agree with. Specifically previous injury is the greatest predictor of future injury. And Zion does some pretty unique stuff so he may have unique conditions to consider. But playing 250 or less? Ridiculous. Durant is listed at 230 and that dude looks disease skinny. A healthy 80-game Zion will play near 275, pending how his body continues to grow.

ilikecheese · October 25, 2019

Dafudge is going on with Westbrook's hair?!?!

TheBigIguana · October 26, 2019

Doncic appears to have gotten even better in year 2. He and Porzingis are a fun duo.

Rook · October 26, 2019

Nymzee said:
We’ll just have to disagree on this I think. Zion is one of a kind. The players you listed whilst massive couldn’t jump. As you said Barkley was 30lbs less in the NBA at Zion’s height. He’ll keep getting impact injuries.

Was listening to Richard Jefferson say once knee injuries start early they tend to persist for life. Be a shame if his NBA career is just an injury fest.

Big guys who can jump don't really have a long shelf life, usually by 27-28 you are totally washed up and this was before the pace and space era. Quietly what Blake Griffin is going is flat out amazing. He totally changed his game from dunk artist to more of a point forward.