My fear going forward - what about the youth?

Eggs · January 3, 2017

Woolly Blue said:
It's probably worth remembering he used to be a teacher ( one of Chorley's finest as it happens). By all accounts the kids at the school thought he was ace.

...winning the English Schools Trophy managing Chorley U15s is an amazing achievement.

Woolly Blue · January 3, 2017

Eggs said:
...winning the English Schools Trophy managing Chorley U15s is an amazing achievement.

Not really mate, Chorley is chock full of talented individuals. Per capita it's pretty much the hub of the universe. ( I may be slightly biased ).

Rhino and Walsh go back to when Rhino was just a lad playing footie in Chorley and Walshie was coaching him.

bicycleheader · January 3, 2017

Eggsyblueskin said:
It is bizarre how many people think you can throw kids straight into the first team, it doesn't happen like that. Koeman has so far handled the progression of the youngsters excellently. He has integrated them into the squad which allows them to be drilled in regard the positions they should take alongside the senior players, what they should be doing at given moments and he has monitored them. They have been on the bench to get the feel of first team football and when he has judged the time to be right, given them game time. Now ,6 months on , he has started a number of them.
Anyone trying to find reason to still criticise him on this subject , is simply allowing their prejudice get in the way of their judgement.

sorry but this just another example of trying to paint things as black and white, when it's not that simple

plenty of people have given good reasons for why they don't believe he has really done as much as he could, and why they don't think the selection yesterday proves anything in this regard. there is room for discussion there.

as I've said in a previous post I am feeling more positive in regards to his work in this area, but can fully understand if there is still skepticism

AaronTheBlue · January 3, 2017

there shouldn't be a worry about the youth.

Youth will get into the team IF they are good enough. That's all their is to it really imo.

johnnydawg68 · January 3, 2017

Bagpuss said:
Dowell is a hard one for me - does things that noone else can do but as has already been alluded to he can go missing for large periods of games. Hasnt been close to the same player as he looked at the end of last year either so really can have no complaints of not being picked for a squad. He was the one that I hoped would kick on in pre season and early this year and get regular game time but it just hasnt happened. He has looked better in the last few games I have seen him but do you really think he is going to throw someone like Dowell in when Koeman wont trust Deulofeu?
When I say Dowell is a hard one im not sure how much a loan is going to develop him going to a lower league side. Dowell excels with a bit of time on the ball which you dont get in the lower leagues here and it would be terrible if he got injured by a danny mills orc-like grock!! A loan move abroad I think would be great for him but who is going to be interested? Would be made up if we developed a relationship with a foreign team like Chelsea and Vitesse where we can allow players to go and play at a decent standard better than the u23 league.

Holland. Suits his game and they speak English there.

Woolly Blue · January 15, 2017

Three teenagers on the pitch at the end of today's game and two of them score ( unless Rom nicked Davies' ).

In fairness to the OP I never thought I'd see that under any manager, never mind Koeman.

Mercedes · January 15, 2017

Koeman simply does not give youth a chance.

jinkyali · January 15, 2017

Woolly Blue said:
Three teenagers on the pitch at the end of today's game and two of them score ( unless Rom nicked Davies' ).

In fairness to the OP I never thought I'd see that under any manager, never mind Koeman.

This is going to get brought up time and time again!

I stand by my comments but happy to be proven wrong. Last month or so its looking good.

Goat · January 15, 2017

Woolly Blue said:
Three teenagers on the pitch at the end of today's game and two of them score ( unless Rom nicked Davies' ).

In fairness to the OP I never thought I'd see that under any manager, never mind Koeman.

Hahaha, to be fair to the OP, when this thread was made it was almost like Ronny was doing all he could to swerve the young uns.

Thankfully thats not the case.

Woolly Blue · January 15, 2017

jinkyali said:
This is going to get brought up time and time again

Not at all mate.

There will doubtless be games this season when none of the youngsters play. On those days, I have no intention of bringing the subject up !

toffeejack · January 15, 2017

Woolly Blue said:
Three teenagers on the pitch at the end of today's game and two of them score ( unless Rom nicked Davies' ).

In fairness to the OP I never thought I'd see that under any manager, never mind Koeman.

i thought it was 3, but holgate turned 20 in october.

bluestevon · January 15, 2017

Have to say - the youth looks in good hands

Woolly Blue · January 15, 2017

toffeejack said:
i thought it was 3, but holgate turned 20 in october.

Don't come at me with your pesky facts when I'm trying to exaggerate a point mate !

Tin-Tin · January 15, 2017

"It's not all about young players," he said. "I like to bring in young players but of course you cannot play 11 20-year-old boys this afternoon. They are for the future.

"But if like Tom Davies, like Holgate, if they bring the performance and the level then I will be the first to put them on the list. That’s what I like.

He also gave debuts to a 17 year old Van Der Vaart, a 19 year old Wesley Sneijder and a 17 year old Nigel De Jong. He had a 20 year old Ibrahimovic leading the line and a 20 year old Pienaar played regularly for him.

Looking at that, he obviously hasn't got any problems with a players age, it all depends on the quality of them.

mightymoyes · January 15, 2017

Tin-Tin said:
"It's not all about young players," he said. "I like to bring in young players but of course you cannot play 11 20-year-old boys this afternoon. They are for the future.

"But if like Tom Davies, like Holgate, if they bring the performance and the level then I will be the first to put them on the list. That’s what I like.

He also gave debuts to a 17 year old Van Der Vaart, a 19 year old Wesley Sneijder and a 17 year old Nigel De Jong. He had a 20 year old Ibrahimovic leading the line and a 20 year old Pienaar played regularly for him.

Looking at that, he obviously hasn't got any problems with a players age, it all depends on the quality of them.

18 yr old mata at valencia too