bluestevon
Player Valuation: £80m
Think Kenny is close as well mate given the club has him do an interview recently about waiting for his chance and staying at the club rather than going on loan.
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Think Kenny is close as well mate given the club has him do an interview recently about waiting for his chance and staying at the club rather than going on loan.
mightymoyes
Player Valuation: £70m
thats the thing, this group of young players we have at the minute have a winning mentality (the opposite of the first team) and have won things all the way up the ranks be it with everton or england.
probably the best crop we've ever had and if we dont turn at least 2 or 3 into first teamers we may as well close the academy.
Baschurch blue
Player Valuation: £225k
I think koeman will give youth a a chance in the next few weeks I think the future is youth at everton.
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
The youth needs to be good enough to compete in the top half of the Premier League. If they are, then they will play. If they aren't, then they won't. It's as simple as that, and that's absolutely the way it should be.
I can't believe people are worried that players of Chadwick quality may struggle to get a couple of games at Everton before they are binned off to play a squad role for a League 2 team. Players of Chadwick quality should never be playing for Everton, as they never have, and never will never be, good enough for Everton.
I can't believe people are worried that players of Chadwick quality may struggle to get a couple of games at Everton before they are binned off to play a squad role for a League 2 team. Players of Chadwick quality should never be playing for Everton, as they never have, and never will never be, good enough for Everton.
Playing youngsters is relative to expectations of the club and their quality at the time.
There's no room for romanticism in football. Arguably, the reason we had our fair share of home grown 'talents' playing first team - reflects where we were at the time - Barlow, chadwick, cadamarteri, branch. We built them up coz they were ours. But, where are they now, what were they then. Average at best.
We demand more now, and whilst being a blue sure helps. For how long? Goodisons become a bit toxic. Even Barkley is getting it left right and centre. Our best home grown since the receding wonder. Stones has jibbed.
I want nothing more than a team of blues ripping it up. But, seems the strategy now is more short term quick fix. Which I understand. You can't have both.
That's what confuses me a little.
If you believe the press, (first mistake)is the continued rumours of us scouting teenies (Charlton lad and others). But for the first team we want proven players in their prime.
I was excited by dowell, but the stats are against him and the 100's we have on our books. Sometimes you drop a bollock, but 99% don't make it. Ever.
For every forshaw there are 10 baxters. Or a Rodwell.
It's a lottery. You might hit gold with an alli, but for every alli there's 10 Henens, or worse a Gueye/junior. Don't even talk about the rodrigos. I so wanted him to be ace.
So, maybe we don't play them enough. They head off. Maybe we play them, they head off. Maybe we buy them back later (baines).
Who knows. It's always fun though. If nothing else, Everton never fail to fuel the fume.
There's no room for romanticism in football. Arguably, the reason we had our fair share of home grown 'talents' playing first team - reflects where we were at the time - Barlow, chadwick, cadamarteri, branch. We built them up coz they were ours. But, where are they now, what were they then. Average at best.
We demand more now, and whilst being a blue sure helps. For how long? Goodisons become a bit toxic. Even Barkley is getting it left right and centre. Our best home grown since the receding wonder. Stones has jibbed.
I want nothing more than a team of blues ripping it up. But, seems the strategy now is more short term quick fix. Which I understand. You can't have both.
That's what confuses me a little.
If you believe the press, (first mistake)is the continued rumours of us scouting teenies (Charlton lad and others). But for the first team we want proven players in their prime.
I was excited by dowell, but the stats are against him and the 100's we have on our books. Sometimes you drop a bollock, but 99% don't make it. Ever.
For every forshaw there are 10 baxters. Or a Rodwell.
It's a lottery. You might hit gold with an alli, but for every alli there's 10 Henens, or worse a Gueye/junior. Don't even talk about the rodrigos. I so wanted him to be ace.
So, maybe we don't play them enough. They head off. Maybe we play them, they head off. Maybe we buy them back later (baines).
Who knows. It's always fun though. If nothing else, Everton never fail to fuel the fume.
Certainly the best group of youngsters I've seen since in last 25 years. To me I can't see Koeman giving them a chance. Dowell is disillusioned & I think that's why his form has dipped for U23's. The youngsters, apart from Holgate, didn't even get any time against Yeovil or Norwich (they didn't even make the bench). Contrast Koeman to Pochetino at Southampton. As a manager you either believe in giving younger players a chance or you don't. I think it's increasingly looking like Koeman doesn't. If you can't go and watch them regularly (when playing schedule allows) then you're not really interested.
If Koeman can get us winning things without playing the youngsters I'll say fine. But when the current players are playing as disappointingly as they have been, and youngsters like Holgate and Davies (at least) have never let us down when they have been used, Id say let's give those youngsters a chance...
Give Yooot a Chance
Leads the line well holds the ball up power just injury prone now sad Nolan ended his career!
At times best back to goal player we have ever had in his youth!
There's presently only one academy product who's a regular in the first team, which would alarm me much more than the possibility of Koeman not giving the next crop of prospects a fair chance.
Davies looks to have a shot, but producing one player who *might* make it every three or four years isn't good enough, especially considering the lack of interest the local competition and other clubs across the country have had in developing their youth. Everton should've dominated the category, particularly in the NW, for the last decade.
The current workaround of buying players from the lower leagues and getting them ready for the PL is impressive and important, but will that be sustainable? If it turns out not to be a fluke (come on, three for three in recent years, with Calvert-Lewin yet to be judged), then the above is obviously less worrisome.
Davies looks to have a shot, but producing one player who *might* make it every three or four years isn't good enough, especially considering the lack of interest the local competition and other clubs across the country have had in developing their youth. Everton should've dominated the category, particularly in the NW, for the last decade.
The current workaround of buying players from the lower leagues and getting them ready for the PL is impressive and important, but will that be sustainable? If it turns out not to be a fluke (come on, three for three in recent years, with Calvert-Lewin yet to be judged), then the above is obviously less worrisome.
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Zero.
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
Zatara
Player Valuation: £100m
Scandalous to appoint a manager who never plays young players unless its an emergency especially when we have Unsworth et al doing such a fine job.
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