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Moyes' reasoning for few appearances from Barkley
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Del
Ric Wee fan club member 2014
So you dont belive what you wrote earlier then?
ravaro
Player Valuation: £750k
If he was half the player some believe he should have shone against a Liverpool reserve team full of unknowns. He made a number of runs that came to nothing and played one or two long range passes, but there was nothing in that display, or in his Premiership games early in the season, to convince me that he is ready for a regular place yet.
Still one for the future, and I'm sure Moyes knows what he's doing.
Still one for the future, and I'm sure Moyes knows what he's doing.
Del
Ric Wee fan club member 2014
Did you watch him against QPR where at 18 he was the best player on the pitch
Ya'll just had your esk handed to you...
just_COYB
Player Valuation: £8m
“I hear a lot of people asking where Ross is, but he’s not been ready to play in the team.â€
...but Cahill and Neville have been *ready*.
They're prepared for the nerves of the game, mostly because noone expects anything of them.
Dublintoff
Player Valuation: £15m
Exactly.
Everyone including moyes will know how good he is technically but maybe he is not mentally mature enough yet, hence the reason he can be MoM in a premiership game, yet fail to shine against the red ****es kids. With time that mental maturity will come and with that Barkley playing week in week out, wether for us or someone else.
But the negative nellys wont have that. They just use the situation to slate moyes again.
ravaro
Player Valuation: £750k
100% correct Dublintoff.
He will be great and clearly already has the skill. However his decision making isn't at an adequate level yet. I trust Moyes to do the right thing with him, which probably does mean blooding him in some of the meaningless April / May games where the worst thing that might happen is that we qualify for the Thursday night Euro thingy cup.
He will be great and clearly already has the skill. However his decision making isn't at an adequate level yet. I trust Moyes to do the right thing with him, which probably does mean blooding him in some of the meaningless April / May games where the worst thing that might happen is that we qualify for the Thursday night Euro thingy cup.
Summerskin
Player Valuation: £35m
He forgot:
"I'm a dour b*stard"
"I'm a dour b*stard"
tasslehoff
Player Valuation: £10m
Won't somebody think of his Knees FFS!
OH LORD THE KNEES!
when i score we riot
Player Valuation: £40m
Think of Barkley's slow introduction from a business standpoint.
Already 6-12 months before his first team debut, we had been hearing about his progression, i remember Cahill citing him as one of the best talents to come through the Everton academy some time back. The preseason and start of season games are to show that he is definetly capable and exciting, though maybe not entirely ready. Lads' gotta be ready when the big challenges come along.
Rodwell is a good model example to portray the pressures of living up to the initial impression. In the summer of 2010 we were all on about £25 mill bids from man u, but after the bad form the team (and him) have been in since, those expectations have been scaled down a bit. Though that doesn't mean he hasn't learned and grown as a footballer. He's earned caps for England and proven himself as a solid player, which is a big step to take. Cause after all, when you play the week-in week-out game and wish to stay there, you gotta substitute that initial excitement for whatever reputation or personality you develop as a player, and the byproduct of this is usually a sort of disappointment. Remember how awesome Walcott seemed at first, and how there suddenly came a time later where everybody seemed to dislike him? Now he still is a regular PL performer, 22 of age, and achieving that is a lot of work in itself.
Stepping up to that level is what Barkley is about to do now, and we would all like to see him start with a bang, come on all exciting and awesome and man-of-the-match-winning like, and just not stop getting better, till he's captaining the team age 21 and scoring (bainesy-assisted) hattricks for England at the world cup. Obviously the initial momentum of his introduction will slow down.
What Moyes is doing now is letting that momentum build without putting too much pressure on him. How well he does also has a lot to do with how the whole team plays - even though we imagine he could come on and save our dire, uncreative side in the middle of a game we're trailing at blackburn away, that might not be the case and disappointment + a lower market value is the result.
I'm glad it's being almost announced like this instead, it shows we have a plan for the kid that he also knows to play by. It's a good as indication of Barkley being ready as any. It's just up to him if he makes it when the time comes.
Already 6-12 months before his first team debut, we had been hearing about his progression, i remember Cahill citing him as one of the best talents to come through the Everton academy some time back. The preseason and start of season games are to show that he is definetly capable and exciting, though maybe not entirely ready. Lads' gotta be ready when the big challenges come along.
Rodwell is a good model example to portray the pressures of living up to the initial impression. In the summer of 2010 we were all on about £25 mill bids from man u, but after the bad form the team (and him) have been in since, those expectations have been scaled down a bit. Though that doesn't mean he hasn't learned and grown as a footballer. He's earned caps for England and proven himself as a solid player, which is a big step to take. Cause after all, when you play the week-in week-out game and wish to stay there, you gotta substitute that initial excitement for whatever reputation or personality you develop as a player, and the byproduct of this is usually a sort of disappointment. Remember how awesome Walcott seemed at first, and how there suddenly came a time later where everybody seemed to dislike him? Now he still is a regular PL performer, 22 of age, and achieving that is a lot of work in itself.
Stepping up to that level is what Barkley is about to do now, and we would all like to see him start with a bang, come on all exciting and awesome and man-of-the-match-winning like, and just not stop getting better, till he's captaining the team age 21 and scoring (bainesy-assisted) hattricks for England at the world cup. Obviously the initial momentum of his introduction will slow down.
What Moyes is doing now is letting that momentum build without putting too much pressure on him. How well he does also has a lot to do with how the whole team plays - even though we imagine he could come on and save our dire, uncreative side in the middle of a game we're trailing at blackburn away, that might not be the case and disappointment + a lower market value is the result.
I'm glad it's being almost announced like this instead, it shows we have a plan for the kid that he also knows to play by. It's a good as indication of Barkley being ready as any. It's just up to him if he makes it when the time comes.
sexualchocolate
Player Valuation: £6m
the odd 20 mins at the end of a game to make a positive impact is hardly going to make him implode though is it, I still reckon he should have been involved more this season considering the lack of options we had in the middle and off the front man
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The problem is the supporters have such high expectations on him that if if didnt turn games in the last twenty mins it would be a let down. He needs to learn the game and if he can do that out of the lime light then its better for him.
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