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Mass exodus of UK football journalists to American website 'The Atheletic'

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longers said:
www.buzzfeed.com

“It Has Set Off A Bomb”: A US Sport Website Has Gone On A Hiring Spree Of UK Journalism Talent

“It’s a journalist transfer window.”
www.buzzfeed.com www.buzzfeed.com



They must be getting paid real good to all ditch their current jobs
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Or likely just getting paid...

The printed word is a terrible place to work at the moment. Everybody wants new content, for free, 3 times a day. Nobody wants to spend time reading well researched, well sourced pieces that are longer than a Facebook post... the stuff journalists like doing.

Put it this way, I had a 1200 word piece in the sports pages of the independent last week and a 2000 worder on the cover of a section of the weekend Guardian a couple of months back. Total earnings? €400. Not sustainable... if The Athletic are offering salaried positions or good piece rates to writers to do good work then fair play to them.
 
Disgruntledgoat said:
Or likely just getting paid...

The printed word is a terrible place to work at the moment. Everybody wants new content, for free, 3 times a day. Nobody wants to spend time reading well researched, well sourced pieces that are longer than a Facebook post... the stuff journalists like doing.

Put it this way, I had a 1200 word piece in the sports pages of the independent last week and a 2000 worder on the cover of a section of the weekend Guardian a couple of months back. Total earnings? €400. Not sustainable... if The Athletic are offering salaried positions or good piece rates to writers to do good work then fair play to them.
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Big time.

I subscribe to a couple newspapers, especially the guardian, mainly down to trying to keep some kind of the above journalism going.

People will bemoan when it's gone.
 

Disgruntledgoat said:
Or likely just getting paid...

The printed word is a terrible place to work at the moment. Everybody wants new content, for free, 3 times a day. Nobody wants to spend time reading well researched, well sourced pieces that are longer than a Facebook post... the stuff journalists like doing.

Put it this way, I had a 1200 word piece in the sports pages of the independent last week and a 2000 worder on the cover of a section of the weekend Guardian a couple of months back. Total earnings? €400. Not sustainable... if The Athletic are offering salaried positions or good piece rates to writers to do good work then fair play to them.
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Link us up to the article in the independent?
 
kenada_blue said:
Big time.

I subscribe to a couple newspapers, especially the guardian, mainly down to trying to keep some kind of the above journalism going.

People will bemoan when it's gone.
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I’ve been pondering subscribing to a couple of outlets as I’m fed up of reading garbage every day. Even the BBC partake in a bit of click bait now and they don’t even run adverts.
 
Baines' left foot said:
I’ve been pondering subscribing to a couple of outlets as I’m fed up of reading garbage every day. Even the BBC partake in a bit of click bait now and they don’t even run adverts.
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The guardian one is about £3.00 a month and there's other tiers for print and digital.
 
kenada_blue said:
The guardian one is about £3.00 a month and there's other tiers for print and digital.
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I pay a Guardian sub, for the sport alone. Although the success of their scheme has in no way reduced their levels of listicles or click bait. I have a couple of subs to Belgian papers too.

I got a bit narky when somebody got in touch to tell me they'd taken out a Guardian sub on the strength of the piece I did for them... As a freelancer I was half minded to ask them to send the €10 a month to me instead.
 

chrismpw said:
Oh no! Who else can watch a football match free and write a few words about it?

What will we do?

Oh no! And who else with an imagination can think up utter wham during transfer windows to sell copy?

What will we do? The sky is falling. :coffee:
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The thing is, if journalists don’t get paid well, and readers don’t get into the idea of a paid model then you will just get utter wham during transfer windows.
However, interested and engaged journalists writing about some of the major pastimes and interests of the nation is hugely important and shouldn’t be undervalued
 
chrismpw said:
Oh no! Who else can watch a football match free and write a few words about it?

What will we do?

Oh no! And who else with an imagination can think up utter wham during transfer windows to sell copy?

What will we do? The sky is falling. :coffee:
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Like I said, the three things people want in the stuff they read is that it is entertaining, reliable and free.

You can have any two of them.
 
Disgruntledgoat said:
I pay a Guardian sub, for the sport alone. Although the success of their scheme has in no way reduced their levels of listicles or click bait. I have a couple of subs to Belgian papers too.

I got a bit narky when somebody got in touch to tell me they'd taken out a Guardian sub on the strength of the piece I did for them... As a freelancer I was half minded to ask them to send the €10 a month to me instead.
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Oh I was gonna mention the same. There was a few months of solid "men are bastards" articles and opinion pieces swamping the thing at one point that were there based purely for outrage porn.

But the good outweighs the bad. And their subscription campaign seemed to have been very successful as you say.
 
dead_soft said:
The thing is, if journalists don’t get paid well, and readers don’t get into the idea of a paid model then you will just get utter wham during transfer windows.
However, interested and engaged journalists writing about some of the major pastimes and interests of the nation is hugely important and shouldn’t be undervalued
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Isn't that the case now and has been for many many years, can't see anything changing
 

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