Martinez Sentiment Poll: In or Out

Smodger · May 3, 2015

orly said:
He should be sacked for keeping Villa in the league the utter bulb

I hope bob Martinez has a good hard look at them players and relises he needs more than two or three signings.

Brennan · May 3, 2015

sd_1992 said:
With the exception of the current top 4, it is better than the rest by quite some way.

It's really, really not.

Alcaraz, Osman, Pienaar, Howard, Naismith, Kone. All a big part of our squad and none of them would get in the team for Liverpool or Spurs.

We've got 7 players who could definitely get in the squads of some of the current top 6 but other than that we are ropey.

sd_1992 · May 3, 2015

sageyefc said:
The first 11 is, but our squads weak.

Plus a few of our first 11 badly let us down at times which you cant legislate for

I don't think anyone outside the top 4 has a good squad.

I think Martinez has a point when he talks about us having a hangover from the big games, same thing happened last season which ultimately cost us top 4. Think there is still a small club mentality amongst the squad which needs to be addressed.

sd_1992 · May 3, 2015

Brennan said:
It's really, really not.

Alcaraz, Osman, Pienaar, Howard, Naismith, Kone. All a big part of our squad and none of them would get in the team for Liverpool or Spurs.

We've got 7 players who could definitely get in the squads of some of the current top 6 but other than that we are ropey.

The sqaud depth is rubbish, but you could list as many names from spurs and the RS benches who wouldn't get into the others squads, and with the exception of Lloris/Mignolet not a single player from either of their first XI would get into ours.

Brennan · May 3, 2015

sd_1992 said:
The sqaud depth is rubbish, but you could list as many names from spurs and the RS benches who wouldn't get into the others squads, and with the exception of Lloris/Mignolet not a single player from either of their first XI would get into ours.

You've definitely been drinking today. Eriksen/Coutinho all day long ahead of Barkley.

scratchnsurf · May 3, 2015

Zodiak2 said:
You missed the best one, picking Hibbert to play out of position at Left Back when Baines was out, instead of Luke Garbutt.

Yeah, cost us the game that one.

Except that we won.

scratchnsurf · May 3, 2015

sd_1992 said:
The sqaud depth is rubbish, but you could list as many names from spurs and the RS benches who wouldn't get into the others squads, and with the exception of Lloris/Mignolet not a single player from either of their first XI would get into ours.

Certainly wouldn't want that 30 goal striker Spurs have got anywhere near our first team.

sd_1992 · May 3, 2015

Brennan said:
You've definitely been drinking today. Eriksen/Coutinho all day long ahead of Barkley.

Forgot about Eriksen, but Coutinho has had 5 good games all season...

scratchnsurf said:
Certainly wouldn't want that 30 goal striker Spurs have got anywhere near our first team.

In our team with the service we give our striker he would probably have 3 haha, and being serious, the amount of players who have a good season and then fall into obscurity, i'd rather have rom.

Brennan · May 3, 2015

sd_1992 said:
Forgot about Eriksen, but Coutinho has had 5 good games all season...

In our team with the service we give our striker he would probably have 3 haha, and being serious, the amount of players who have a good season and then fall into obscurity, i'd rather have rom.

That's about five more than Barkley...

Coutinho does more for Liverpool than Barkley does for us.

GwladysBlue · May 3, 2015

Brennan said:
I really don't think it's all that.

We have some great players who anyone outside of Chelsea, Arsenal and City would want.

maccavennie · May 3, 2015

Brennan said:
That's about five more than Barkley...

Coutinho does more for Liverpool than Barkley does for us.

Yep, nowt wrong and being honest in saying Barkley has been pretty turd this season unfortunately for us.

GwladysBlue · May 3, 2015

The thing is though, Barkley has been getting moved here, there and everywhere under Martinez. He has been shoved out on the wing to accommodate Naismith for much of this season.

This is also the man who decided that £28m Lukaku, our best striker should also be able to play on the wing.

He just isn't a top manager, I just know that Spurs for example would not be finishing outside the top 8 never mind 10. He should be ashamed he has managed to guide us into this position.

Brennan · May 3, 2015

GwladysBlue said:
We have some great players who anyone outside of Chelsea, Arsenal and City would want.

First team absolutely, squad no.

Brennan · May 3, 2015

GwladysBlue said:
The thing is though, Barkley has been getting moved here, there and everywhere under Martinez. He has been shoved out on the wing to accommodate Naismith for much of this season.

This is also the man who decided that £28m Lukaku, our best striker should also be able to play on the wing.

He just isn't a top manager, I just know that Spurs for example would not be finishing outside the top 8 never mind 10. He should be ashamed he has managed to guide us into this position.

Coutinho plays all over the place in that attacking three behind Sturridge or Sterling, it's a poor excuse. If Barkley is going to ever live up to expectations he should be able to put in a good performance out wide or through the middle.

GwladysBlue · May 3, 2015

Brennan said:
First team absolutely, squad no.

Yeah, I totally agree with that. Martinez is saying that Hibbert and Pienaar are still crucial players for us next season, so don't be expecting the squad quality to improve.