Martinez OUT. There i said it. (end of the season of course).

[Titus Bramble]

Hehehehe.

 

[davek]

The boss looks imperious here.....

 

[Toffeelover]

The boss looks imperious here.....

No he isn't. He is thinking what the heck have you done Stones

 

[Goat]

Be boss if he came out and said we were rubbish.

 

[Allezfan]

It's nice to see us playing well again isn't it? My hope was always that we'd see this side again if we let martinez work through it and that was superb.

Less nice to see everyone using it to score points as if we'd been playing like this all season. One good performance is great but it doesn't erase all the doubts. We need to make this the new norm.

 

[Del]

RM teams are flaky defensively and that won't change. He had the benefit of taking over a solid Moyes defence, and just added to the attack (which wasn't hard given how dour Moyes is in that department). This season the defence is a year older, slower, and a year farther out from Moyes influence...and the Martinez effect has begun.

I see similarities with Wenger (to an extent, and relatively speaking obviously at a lower level) in that Wenger inherited that brilliant defence from George Graham which was hugely successful right up til 2002...and the likes of Adams, Dixon etc were also then able to influence the successors in Sol Campbell and Kolo Toure, but once that influence went Arsenal became very suspect defensively, flaky, which they have been for the last decade. Wenger knows this and brought in Steve Bould to try and arrest the defensive fallibilites and exert his influence from the GG era.

Yet we have only conceded 3 goals in the last 6 games, Only losing one game

 

[Prevenger17]

I'm not getting overly excited about a win against a ropey Young Boys side, but it was good to see all the players look happy again. The way we dialled up the intensity as soon as we conceded, the celebrations, Coleman's fist pump after their penalty miss, we just looked more confident and content than we have done for a lot of the season. It would be nice to see us blow away Leicester.

 

[davek]

I'm not getting overly excited about a win against a ropey Young Boys side, but it was good to see all the players look happy again. The way we dialled up the intensity as soon as we conceded, the celebrations, Coleman's fist pump after their penalty miss, we just looked more confident and content than we have done for a lot of the season. It would be nice to see us blow away Leicester.

Ropey?!

Won their last 8 games in their own league, beat Napoli 2-0 on that ground before Christmas and won their last 7 games at home in the EL.

 

[Abraders]

Ropey?!

Won their last 8 games in their own league, beat Napoli 2-0 on that ground before Christmas and won their last 7 games at home in the EL.

Which worked out at something like we were the first team to beat them at home in Europe for 3 years?

 

[davek]

Which worked out at something like we were the first team to beat them at home in Europe for 3 years?

I dont know if they were in the CL or its qualifiers like, but even so: 'ropey'.

Unbelievable. Why would anyone want to minimize the scale of that victory?

 

[Prevenger17]

Ropey?!

Won their last 8 games in their own league, beat Napoli 2-0 on that ground before Christmas and won their last 7 games at home in the EL.

Ah, that first bit hardly matters. I'm not getting too carried away, the Europa League has an indistinguishable mush of very good/terrible sides. Their defending was suicidal and one (if not two) of our goals were offside. I have to emphasize, we did more than we had to do, and it was pleasing to see, but a lot of people wanted Young Boys before the draw was even made and there was a very good reason for that.

 

[davek]

Ah, that first bit hardly matters. I'm not getting too carried away, the Europa League has an indistinguishable mush of very good/terrible sides. Their defending was suicidal and one (if not two) of our goals were offside. I have to emphasize, we did more than we had to do, and it was pleasing to see, but a lot of people wanted Young Boys before the draw was even made and there was a very good reason for that.

It couldn't just be that Everton were THAT good on the night could it? We went there and not just succeded where all other teams in Europe have failed recently, we went there and took them to the cleaners and could have scored 10.

As poor as we've been this season, there's not many other teams outside of the likes of Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona who'd have gone there and dominated them like that last night.

 

[Saint Domingo]

If (big if) we get a favourable draw in the next round (presuming we avoid implosion at Goodison next week) and we get through that. Does that mean in his first two seasons Martinez will have recorded Everton's record premier league points total and taken us further in European competition than anyone since Kendall? Yeah proper fraud this one.

 

[Prevenger17]

It couldn't just be that Everton were THAT good on the night could it? We went there and not just succeded where all other teams in Europe have failed recently, we went there and took them to the cleaners and could have scored 10.

As poor as we've been this season, there's not many other teams outside of the likes of Bayern, Madrid, Barcelona who'd have gone there and dominated them like that last night.

We were great, job done. To be honest, I probably would have been more ecstatic had we not won with the very formation that I have furiously rallied against for the entire season. It also embellishes the "Games played without McGeady" pie chart. I like being right Dave, and this comprehensive win has kicked me right in the chops.

 

[Darth Toffeeman]

Great game last night.
After beating Wolfsburg 4-1 we then had Crystal Palace at Goodison, managed by Neil Warnock.

We simply must beat Leicester on Sunday.
Arguably our biggest game this season. Win it and I feel we can really kick on.