Martinez Out: Post Stoke poll

ijjysmith · March 5, 2015

BoysInBlue said:
QPR play their game in hand vs Spurs on Saturday.

A win for QPR will close the gap between Everton and the relegation zone from 6 points to 3 points.

OH WHEN THE SPURS.....and so on

Fansince1988 · March 5, 2015

davek said:
Is that the best squad last season he took to a record points total and 5th in the league? That one?

Oh yeah, he defo cant 'get us anywhere' with them.

He started on a clean slate and got us going good,his problem is when thing go bad which they didn't last season they go very bad and he hasn't a clue what to do.Moyes did know and got us going again there's no sign of that.His managing ability is bottom half of the prem and top of the championship that's his level,do you want that,I don't.

davek · March 5, 2015

maccavennie said:
Apparently we didn't deserve to lose last night and the players didnt deserve the bad feelings of losing http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spor...berto-martinez-labels-defeats-arsenal-8783012

He's spot on there, btw...about the games we have: 6 at home. Hadn't realised that.

There's nothing there that's outrageous though. It's his way to speak like that. It's not like you're unfamiliar with it is it?

People are seeing what they want in these words now. Time to back him and see this spell out.

davek · March 5, 2015

Fansince1988 said:
He started on a clean slate and got us going good,his problem is when thing go bad which they didn't last season they go very bad and he hasn't a clue what to do.Moyes did know and got us going again there's no sign of that.His managing ability is bottom half of the prem and top of the championship that's his level,do you want that,I don't.

So last season should be ignored and just focus on this season? Sounds fair.

nsno-chris · March 5, 2015

Should have made him walk back from Stoke to contemplate his sh!t tactics

davek · March 5, 2015

MoutsGoat said:
“They don’t deserve that,” Martinez said.

“It is incredible when football is not going to give you anything back.

“When you look at the performances against Arsenal and Stoke, to have those scorelines is heartbreaking."

Let him go David, think of his family.

Roberto comes roaring back next few games.

That's the moment I'll be laughing.

Goat · March 5, 2015

davek said:
Roberto comes roaring back next few games.

That's the moment I'll be laughing.

Im not even angry about him anymore, I just hope he seeks the help he needs.

davek · March 5, 2015

nsno-chris said:
Should have made him walk back from Stoke to contemplate his sh!t tactics

You were saying that when we were beating Man Utd twice last season though, so your words mean nothing...

Goat · March 5, 2015

davek said:
You were saying that when we were beating Man Utd twice last season though, so your words mean nothing...

From beating United twice to getting beat by Stoke twice.

Thats some next level management, RIGHT THERE.

Garrick · March 5, 2015

davek said:
Roberto comes roaring back next few games.

That's the moment I'll be laughing.

I've been thinking "surely it'll turn around at some point, no?" since December.

It has yet to happen. The clock is ticking.

ijjysmith · March 5, 2015

davek said:
You were saying that when we were beating Man Utd twice last season though, so your words mean nothing...

Everyone was beating United twice last season.

BoysInBlue · March 5, 2015

ijjysmith said:
OH WHEN THE SPURS.....and so on

Crazy results never happen in relegation battles, so we'll be just fine.

Fansince1988 · March 5, 2015

davek said:
So last season should be ignored and just focus on this season? Sounds fair.

Fairs nothing to do with it,I think he seems like a really nice bloke but he just isn't good enough,he spent around 40 odd million and has failed miserably,if your happy with him that's your choice.I just think he's out of his depth and can't deal with it when things are bad,at a lot of teams he would be gone al ready.

nsno-chris · March 5, 2015

davek said:
You were saying that when we were beating Man Utd twice last season though, so your words mean nothing...

Lol

Stoke I've just done the double over us
A point off hull
2 points off Leicester

And has the cheek to say we deserved something from the games

Immune to criticism is our bobby.

Remind me again, did we get 72 points last year

davek · March 5, 2015

Woolly Blue said:
Both do, therein lies the problem. We saw the best of his methods last season and havn't this season.
OK, this season has been poor for all sorts of reasons, but it's a hell of a drop in standards.

I think he can turn it round, but only if he admits his mistakes to himself. I don't expect him to come out in public and say it's been dog-shoite, that's not in his nature, but he needs to learn from this season. We're not a club who can afford to go out and buy five or six players who have the technical ability to play in the way he's trying to at the moment, so, mostly, he has to coach and manage with the level of players we've already got.

He's a manager, like any manager he has to find the way to get the best out of his people. At the moment, he ain't doing that, and people can say the players aren't working for him and all the rest of it, but, again, it's his job to make sure they're 100% with him

I think some of that's true, but also that he needs the right players in to do it. This is a personnel issue more than anything else. There are key positions that need filling and have been since the summer. Those gaps plugged and we can take off again.

Most of all right now what we need is a morale boosting win in the PL. That can relaunch this. There really is no reason why we cant get a lot of points here in the run in. Six of the 10 at home; and those below and just above are facing stiffer run ins than us.

It's bad alright, a terrible season, but the panickers and mischiefmakers are making way too much of a drama here. It's utter nonsense most of it. Still, there's only one way to shut them up: three points on the board.