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Erm yes you and your ilk have been saying this for a while now. "Don't worry if we finish 16th lads as we are in a semi final" absolute rubbish we should be doing well in both competitions.

Sick of some fans happy with us peeing away the best squad we have had since the 80's. Being the transfer biatches of powerhouses Stoke and west ham, being laughed at by the kopites, losing some of the best young talent in world football in the summer but oh well martinez keep selling that snake oil lad.


Theres actually nothing logical or true about your post.
 

Kopite behaviour? Because we want change and not to carry on with what we're seeing? Yearh ok mate.

Thank you.

One of the great things about being an Evertonian is that one is not, by extension, a Kopite.

I cherish the fact we are not like them.

So let them shove their flag days, their marches, their humiliation of managers and owners they disdain, their scallywaggery and any of the other cultish, medieval traits they wear like a badge of honour right up their red arses.

I am an Evertonian, sir and I know the difference between us and them.

Et Vive La Difference.
 
Lose the semi -- Good experience of wembley at least and hopefully more trips to come!

Poor season-- 8th/9th expected. 10th/11th below par...anything lower would be poor.

Martinez to be sacked -- For me this isnt only results based. Id like to see some good performances till the end of the season. Regroup in the summer,rid ourselves of a LOT of players and make some key signings.

I think its fair to wait till the summer and assess what we have in the squad + let him sign players and see how we get on next season

Next season is critical for him. He will have his own squad then +Stones/Mori/Niasse etc should habe adapted and grown then.
Oh my god. You do realise we're not a league 1 club do you? Well at least not yet.
 
Get making one mate. You sound passionate about it so go for it.

Looking at your avatar and reading your encouragement there makes me think we need to commission a video message from Rocky to pull everyone together, fans, players, management, board before the semi. If he gave it anything like the 'it ain't how hard you hit' routine then surely it would stir something in the club.

Only half joking about this.
 
Quite right he was quoted as saying the same last year.

But seriously. Aside from you ignoring the past 2 seasons why would you give him another one.

We're not developing. The lists of players we need that you like to do are going to have to get a lot longer.

Lukaku and stones want to leave and Barkley is starting to be linked with other clubs.

Of the players he's brought in Lukaku is the only one who's really developed and even I knew he had potential.

The rest don't look any better than what we paid for them.


Ignoring the Galloways and only first teamers:

Stones
Mori
Besic
McCarthy
Barkley
Deulofeu
Lukaku

All improved and there values have increased,thats discounting Clev and Lennon also who would be worth more than Free + £4.5mil.

We need to add a few more players to the group.
 

Lose the semi -- Good experience of wembley at least and hopefully more trips to come!

Poor season-- 8th/9th expected. 10th/11th below par...anything lower would be poor.

Martinez to be sacked -- For me this isnt only results based. Id like to see some good performances till the end of the season. Regroup in the summer,rid ourselves of a LOT of players and make some key signings.

I think its fair to wait till the summer and assess what we have in the squad + let him sign players and see how we get on next season

Next season is critical for him. He will have his own squad then +Stones/Mori/Niasse etc should habe adapted and grown then.

To be fair mate, we've had two very poor league seasons already and he has signed a fair few players. Last year when we finished 11th we were told the demands of European football were the cause and to give him another season. Now after another very poor league showing with no Euro footy to blame and the most talented group of players in 20+ years, he deserves to be here come August?
 
Those saying wait til after semi/potential final; with the way things are, the fans not happy and the players seemingly not happy either, would it not make sense to make the change and give everyone a boost before the semi or at least give RM a wake-up call?

Exactly.
 
Looking at your avatar and reading your encouragement there makes me think we need to commission a video message from Rocky to pull everyone together, fans, players, management, board before the semi. If he gave it anything like the 'it ain't how hard you hit' routine then surely it would stir something in the club.

Only half joking about this.

This should do it:

 
Errors that Funes Mori made after being put under increased pressure due to the change that Martinez made. We were 2-0 up and he went 4-3-2 with 10 men. It was suicide. We had them beaten because we were keeping width in our play, not allowing them to spread our back four out. He then take off a winger, who was probably our best player, but had admittedly been run off his feet and had very little left, and brought on a striker whos experience of the prem was I think at that point, absolute zero. That allowed Payet more space to operate and opened up our defence to more scrutiny. IMO what he should have done was, either bring on a defensive minded player to support and protect the back four, or a wide player to continue in the vein of what Lennon had been doing. Certainly not bring on a player who was struggling for fitness at your own admission and expect him to lift and support the tiring players already on the pitch. A more experienced player would have been a much better choice there.


Its because the full backs cant defend + lennon wasnt playing wide.
 
Lose the semi -- Good experience of wembley at least and hopefully more trips to come!

Good experience of Wembley. By losing a semi final there? Hardly good.

Poor season-- 8th/9th expected. 10th/11th below par...anything lower would be poor.

8th/9th might have been expected by you.

With this squad 5th/6th is expected.

Anything lower than 7th/8th is poor.

Bottom half is horrendous

Consecutive bottom halves - sackable

Martinez to be sacked -- For me this isnt only results based. Id like to see some good performances till the end of the season. Regroup in the summer,rid ourselves of a LOT of players and make some key signings.

so a couple of performances in what are mostly end of season dead rubber games will erase all memory of the past 2 seasons?

Who that is actually involved in the squad do you think we will get rid of. For me the most likely are Lukaku, Stones and possibly Barkley

I think its fair to wait till the summer and assess what we have in the squad + let him sign players and see how we get on next season

Like we waited for last summer. He's had 6 transfer windows and £100m to assess/sign

Next season is critical for him. He will have his own squad then +Stones/Mori/Niasse etc should habe adapted and grown then.

Stones has 85 appearances for us. He's not inexperienced despite what Bobby likes to tell you. It seems like Mori is being blamed for half of Bobbys losses this season and Niasse is being hung out to dry by being brought on in losing situations when not fully fit or ready.
 

Honestly if Hodgson had come in here and done exactly the same job as he did at them he'd still be here because we're afraid of being called kopites.
Anyone who acuses another Blue of kopite behaviour is just being lazy, like it or not the RS will protest and do get things done. I actually will not boo the team, but that is a personal choice and I totally respect those who choose to boo or bring a banner, its just their passion coming through and they are entitled to do so
 
By time we wait till the end of the season God knows where we will be in the league. Nicely perched above the relegation fodder with Bobby telling us this team hasn't underperformed (again) and that we reached 2 semi finals.
 
We'd rip into Liverpool if it was the other eay round.

I'd save all the booing, banners etc till after the semi final. The whole club needs to be as one but sadly its not
 

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