Martinez - Manage a club like you will be there forever.

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Taken from an interview in next months Four Four Two:-

Everton manager Roberto Martinez has paid tribute to predecessor David Moyes for the groundwork laid by the Scot.

The Catalan coach arrived at Goodison Park a year ago having lifted the FA Cup with unfancied Wigan Athletic, and has quickly made his mark on Merseyside.

Playing a brand of football that has seemingly revitalised the club and its supporters following 11 seasons under Moyes' stewardship, the Toffees secured a fifth-place finish and return to European action for the first time in four years.

Added to that was the small matter of doing the double over Moyes’ Manchester United; the 1-0 victory at Old Trafford their first there in 21 years.

The return fixture also proved to be an unwelcome milestone for the Scot, a 2-0 April defeat at Goodison ending his brief spell in charge of the 20-time champions.

But Martinez only has good things to say about the man who put in place a continuity that has helped the Spaniard take his managerial career to the next level.

“There was a real continuity with the previous management team. In 11 years in charge they brought a lot of success in terms of building something strong.

“I didn’t want to lose that; I wanted to keep it, but also use some of the things from the history of the club. In the 1980s – even before that – we were the ones setting an example to world football. We want to get that mojo back.”

A man with a vision for the long term future of Everton rather than short-term success, could he foresee himself usurping Moyes’ 11 years at the helm?

“You never know in football, but I do enjoy building football clubs,” says the former Wigan midfielder who spent four years in charge at the DW Stadium.

“I believe the way a manager should manage and build a football club is for the long term – you need to manage the football club like you’re going to be there forever.”



Seems crazy to me that people are seemingly overlooking all of this because we havent won in pre-season. Cant wait for the Leicester game.

Come on you blues
 

Wonder how long it would take for some to turn on him after a bad run?

I think even if we had a terrible season in the bottom half and out of the cups - if the style of play was still impressive and there were a few injuries to point to - he'd be absolutely fine. Such is the transformation from the gloom under Moyes.
 
I think even if we had a terrible season in the bottom half and out of the cups - if the style of play was still impressive and there were a few injuries to point to - he'd be absolutely fine. Such is the transformation from the gloom under Moyes.

Bingo
 

Wonder how long it would take for some to turn on him after a bad run?

Part of being a manager though that isn't it. Fans are not generally known for patience. However, our lot do give people a chance if things look like they're moving in the right direction.

If we are losing more than winning by December, fans will have every right to 'turn' on him. What he did last season was great but he/we need to keep that going.
 
Lucky for him then he didn't go to Spurs! :whip:
Pretty sure he factored this in when leaving his previous jobs.

He left Swansea, where he knew he had a stable position to go to Wigan, where he was already something of a club legend and would have a chairman that backed him 100% and would trust him with all matters football.

He had offers to leave for bigger clubs than Wigan, but they came from clubs that aren't famous for giving their managers loads of time and trust. When he finally did leave Wigan it was for us, who had just come off of 11 years of a manager that left us rather than us kicking him out.

Martinez seems to not want to be on the managerial merry-go-round. It's why I question if he'll ever actually jump up from us, because there aren't many steps up that will offer him the control and security that he'll get here at Everton. I truly think he only left Wigan because he knew they would never have the money to get to where we are now - with a great academy and youth system.

I won't turn on Martinez personally until his words ring hollow or if he turns into Moyes Mk. II. I think his positivity and belief that we can make the CL on the back of good personalities and a well developed youth system is the only way we can ever progress from where we are without a massive injection of cash. If he gives up, or I turn out to be totally wrong and we slip down the table year on year I'll of course reverse that opinion, but I'm completely on board with a long term vision for building us through a healthy youth academy with modern facilities and practices.

I'd much rather wait a few years for CL+ than have someone like 'Arry come in, drop £100million, get second for two years and then fiscally explode.
 

Pretty sure he factored this in when leaving his previous jobs.

He left Swansea, where he knew he had a stable position to go to Wigan, where he was already something of a club legend and would have a chairman that backed him 100% and would trust him with all matters football.

He had offers to leave for bigger clubs than Wigan, but they came from clubs that aren't famous for giving their managers loads of time and trust. When he finally did leave Wigan it was for us, who had just come off of 11 years of a manager that left us rather than us kicking him out.

Martinez seems to not want to be on the managerial merry-go-round. It's why I question if he'll ever actually jump up from us, because there aren't many steps up that will offer him the control and security that he'll get here at Everton. I truly think he only left Wigan because he knew they would never have the money to get to where we are now - with a great academy and youth system.

I won't turn on Martinez personally until his words ring hollow or if he turns into Moyes Mk. II. I think his positivity and belief that we can make the CL on the back of good personalities and a well developed youth system is the only way we can ever progress from where we are without a massive injection of cash. If he gives up, or I turn out to be totally wrong and we slip down the table year on year I'll of course reverse that opinion, but I'm completely on board with a long term vision for building us through a healthy youth academy with modern facilities and practices.

I'd much rather wait a few years for CL+ than have someone like 'Arry come in, drop £100million, get second for two years and then fiscally explode.

I think the biggest reason why he came was that we had a nucleus of players who fit his system (and the one player who didn't, Fellani, was shipped out). They already knew how to keep possession, we passed it around the attacking area all day in 2012-13. We just needed some tweaks and a guy like Rom to end this makeshift band-aid striker nonsense.
 
It's great we've found someone who loves his work as much as Moyes did. Added to that, I think he has the right approach to the game to take us beyond where the Scot did. If we carry on progressing as we are, I believe the only way he's leaving is if one of the biggest clubs on the planet come in for him.

I hope it works out and he builds what he wants to here. Credit to the board for giving him some help this summer, as it doesn't come cheap. In getting Lukaku and Besic signed up, as well as some really important contract renewals, they've allowed him to get the foundations in place. Now he's had a year to settle in, I think it's time for us to start trying to achieve something special, to bring us some of the way back to the more successful years he talks about in the OP.

4th or any trophy would be ace. Due to the money getting thrown around though, top 6 alone would be at least a half decent season.
 
I think hes incredibly loyal, he sets a target with a club and doesnt want to move on until he has achieved that.

I heard him interviewed once about having targets for each club hes been at and he doesnt like failing to achieve targets.

Swansea was promotion and laying foundations.

Wigan was european football.

Everton is champions league. I hope he achieves this and stays tbh. I think were a major project and he wants us back amongst the bigtime.

One of my favourite things he done was line the walls with canvases of all the past glory and moments...leaving the final space blank for the current squad to go into. Great touch that
 

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