2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[evertonarntwe]

We still had the same issues last year. We won 2 in 12 on one run and had the same crap defensive problems.

This ridiculous theory that Sam did a good job needs to be jibbed off, ffs.

hang on where did I say he done a good job? I said he done a better than silva, given silva has been absolutely horrific I think that's a valid point and in no way saying sam done a good job

I’m not going to make the same post over and over again, but we were the worst defensive team in open play last year and amongst the worst at creating chances, too. It had nothing to do with style, we were terrible. We are significantly better this year, but because we miraculously finished 8th last year, some of you think we’ve regressed.

significantly better yet we are further down the league?

 

[BlueToff]

He did the job he was paid to do. Glorified caretaker.

The thing is mate, he could have done more.

That's my issue with Sam and why I hate this revisionism about his time here.

He could easily have got us 7th - not that it made much difference - and even just kept the fan base relatively on side had he showed some inclination to be anything other than a dinosaur. He had the squad to do it, to an extent. He didn't have to play that way, but he did. We were safe by January.

 

[BlueToff]

While Millwall did nothing in open play mate, Digne was the one who gave away 2 stupid free - kicks that led to goals.

Also, I think it was more down to our atrocious defending that made Millwall look good at set - pieces mate.

I wouldn't debate that the team is better than last season, but since the Derby you could understand some saying that it is debatable.

I've mentioned it a few times, Silva gets the rest of the season, the Summer transfer window, and the first 10 games of next season for me.

I tend to agree although if the situation/form - not even our position, because somehow we're still 9th - gets any worse then he may well be binned off in the summer.

 

[BlueToff]

hang on where did I say he done a good job? I said he done a better than silva, given silva has been absolutely horrific I think that's a valid point and in no way saying sam done a good job




significantly better yet we are further down the league?

I really don't think he did.

Silva had to deal with taking a squad coached - and in some cases like Lookman, nearly ruined - by Allardyce and then Koeman before him on.

We showed some good stuff in the first half of the season. Since Christmas it has been a slog.

I honestly don't even count Watford and Newcastle in our bad run, or City. While I won't argue we deserved to win any of those games, we at least showed decent flashes and still had that semblance of form/style of play. Spurs was a mad one and Burnley aside the last six weeks has been abysmal.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

I just care about position I don’t care if the team hoof it and win 1-0 every week. Tippy tappy doesn’t not guarantee anything.

What does that have to do with anything?

Look at last year for a second. When were we winning games under Sam, he wasn’t doing it with tactics or intellect, he was getting lucky as heck. Huddersfield away, 2-0 win. They had more chances, more possession, and we won. Swans away, we got completed dominated, they had 17 shots against us, and we had to battle to a draw thanks to an own goal. We literally couldn’t score basing them. These teams were outplaying us - Swans, Huddersfield. And we had zero chance against anyone good.

Let’s talk about POINTS. We drew away to the [Poor language removed] last year and lost this year. Last year, we got outshot 23-3. We had 20% possession. This wasn’t effective low block tactics, either, we gave up 10 shots in the box that they just missed. We got a silly penalty and got the point. That’s not style over substance. Yet we went over there this year, less than a year removed, and yes, we defended, but gave up much less, created considerably more, and Pickford bottles a play at the end and we lose. Now over the long run, you play like that every week you are going to end up with more points.

If a 1-0 loss against Southampton where we out possessed them, and just laid an egg is the WORST performance, then yes we have DEFINITELY improved.

 

[hktoffee]

I really don't think he did.

Silva had to deal with taking a squad coached - and in some cases like Lookman, nearly ruined - by Allardyce and then Koeman before him on.

We showed some good stuff in the first half of the season. Since Christmas it has been a slog.

I honestly don't even count Watford and Newcastle in our bad run, or City. While I won't argue we deserved to win any of those games, we at least showed decent flashes and still had that semblance of form/style of play. Spurs was a mad one and Burnley aside the last six weeks has been abysmal.

Failure to beat Watford and Newcastle is bad, real bad. We normally beat them at home. Last season we beat them.

 

[Deco]

Jim White on talksport saying that he was “with his pal Farhad last night” and is about to give “the latest view on Marco from the very top”.

 

[Bob Elstone]

I’d expect a half decent manager with those players to be able to beat the absolute dross we’ve either drawn or lost to.

I don’t think he’s up to it which is a shame.

Question is when do they pull the trigger?

 

[CRIMHEAD]

While Millwall did nothing in open play mate, Digne was the one who gave away 2 stupid free - kicks that led to goals.

Also, I think it was more down to our atrocious defending that made Millwall look good at set - pieces mate.

I wouldn't debate that the team is better than last season, but since the Derby you could understand some saying that it is debatable.

I've mentioned it a few times, Silva gets the rest of the season, the Summer transfer window, and the first 10 games of next season for me.

I believe they had scored 14 set piece goals coming in to the match. And yes, we’ve looked poor since the Derby, but not poor like last year. Poor was having 20% possession at Anfield. Poor this year is dominating Leicester with 60% possession, outshooting them 2 to 1 - we had 30 crosses that match, and losing on a Vardy counter where Keane misjudgment and Pickford lack of quality resulted in a 1-0 loss.

It’s frustrating, but it also gives me hope as with better quality, a CF that can score, a CB that can play with his feet, a CM that can both defend and move the ball, a RW that’s can slot, we play like that 80% of the time we win. But last year, we’d have been overjoyed at that performance, said we were unlucky, and moved on. This year we declare it to be Silva’s fault.

 

[Papa Shango]

The thing is mate, he could have done more.

That's my issue with Sam and why I hate this revisionism about his time here.

He could easily have got us 7th - not that it made much difference - and even just kept the fan base relatively on side had he showed some inclination to be anything other than a dinosaur. He had the squad to do it, to an extent. He didn't have to play that way, but he did. We were safe by January.

Yeah agreed although this season is showing our squads limitations too.

He was brought in to steady us so a new manager could come in in the summer, I think that was always going to be the case regardless.

 

[hktoffee]

What does that have to do with anything?

Look at last year for a second. When were we winning games under Sam, he wasn’t doing it with tactics or intellect, he was getting lucky as heck. Huddersfield away, 2-0 win. They had more chances, more possession, and we won. Swans away, we got completed dominated, they had 17 shots against us, and we had to battle to a draw thanks to an own goal. We literally couldn’t score basing them. These teams were outplaying us - Swans, Huddersfield. And we had zero chance against anyone good.

Let’s talk about POINTS. We drew away to the [Poor language removed] last year and lost this year. Last year, we got outshot 23-3. We had 20% possession. This wasn’t effective low block tactics, either, we gave up 10 shots in the box that they just missed. We got a silly penalty and got the point. That’s not style over substance. Yet we went over there this year, less than a year removed, and yes, we defended, but gave up much less, created considerably more, and Pickford bottles a play at the end and we lose. Now over the long run, you play like that every week you are going to end up with more points.

If a 1-0 loss against Southampton where we out possessed them, and just laid an egg is the WORST performance, then yes we have DEFINITELY improved.

I don’t get this shot on target and possession thing. You outscore an opposition then you win. The scoreboard means everything.

You can’t have it both way. BFS won and he got lucky. People just have an agenda towards BFS. Silva lost then it’s a progress in performance.

I don’t think we improve if we get less points in the same fixtures this season. 38 games then we will find out an answer.

 

[Deco]

Farhad has apparently said that “it’s a project and we want to develop young players long term and Silva is the one for that” and that “in this business you have to hold your nerve”.

Looks like he’s being given more time as expected. It just doesn’t feel like he’s about to be sacked despite how poor we are.

 

[Bob Elstone]

Farhad has apparently said that “it’s a project and we want to develop young players long term and Silva is the one for that” and that “in this business you have to hold your nerve”.

Looks like he’s being given more time as expected. It just doesn’t feel like he’s about to be sacked despite how poor we are.

Got to question moshiri and his judgement on footballing matters.

If he’s talking up youngsters...Calvert Lewin is average, Kenny nothing special, Jury out on lookman, Davies is poor.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

I don’t get this shot on target and possession thing. You outscore an opposition then you win. The scoreboard means everything.

You can’t have it both way. BFS won and he got lucky. People just have an agenda towards BFS. Silva lost then it’s a progress in performance.

I don’t think we improve if we get less points in the same fixtures this season. 38 games then we will find out an answer.

There is no agenda, over time, you create more chances, you will win. This isn’t random. It’s fairly simple. Look, if you think gifting the ball to the opponent 80% of the time and letting take 23 shots and you only take 3 is a way to consistently win football matches, fine. Good luck.

 

[Papa Shango]

Farhad has apparently said that “it’s a project and we want to develop young players long term and Silva is the one for that” and that “in this business you have to hold your nerve”.

Looks like he’s being given more time as expected. It just doesn’t feel like he’s about to be sacked despite how poor we are.

Barring a complete disaster he shouldn't be either.

Of course if we get beat by a cricket score against City tomorrow (which is not out of the question) I will be burning effigys of him.