2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[davek]

Dont think we really know do we. I thought Moyes would have won us the league with an adequate budget. Much less than a Jose or Pep require, but he never got it so I will never know.

Moyes had the massive cash and inherited the squad of the champions of England...and proceeded to destroy United for a generation, so I think you do know.

 

[COYBL25]

Are you telling me if Martinez kept his job and was allowed the Moshiri money to build a team, he would have done it well and had us competing in the CL now?

By " CL ", do you mean the Championship League ?

If so, I agree with you there mate.

 

[Rob17896]

Moyes had the massive cash and inherited the squad of the champions of England...and proceeded to destroy United for a generation, so I think you do know.

no. he got a player or two and no time. As it has proven, nobody will ever be Alex Ferguson. Sadly not for us but the greatest manager we will ever see.

 

[deipnosophist]

Under Bobby we had an arrogance, we’d go toe to toe against anybody and we were always in a good moment of our football. All our players were phenomenal and in Tom Cleverley we had one of England’s best...an exceptional talent.
Bobby was one of a kind

 

[wba83]

You saw in the second leg last 20 minutes how ropey they could be.

That was winnable....just not under Sgt Major Hoofball.

Villarreal got to the semi final of the champions league the year they beat us they were a top team .and I agree we had them on the ropes but don't think it was moyes fault we dident beat them TBF

 

[Zatara]

Isnt this the Marco Silva thread???

 

[Nymzee]

Under Bobby we had an arrogance, we’d go toe to toe against anybody and we were always in a good moment of our football. All our players were phenomenal and in Tom Cleverley we had one of England’s best...an exceptional talent.
Bobby was one of a kind

I have not missed that word.

 

[The Penalty Box Dancer]

I think Dave has had a post match meltdown. God help the forum if we win on Sunday

 

[deipnosophist]

I have not missed that word.

Bobby made it a momentous one...like pretty much everything else he babbled on about. The man was a phenomenon.

 

[MikeH72]

They were down to 10 men and stretched.

Not the pace or strength for a winger here.

?? No they weren’t.

 

[Nymzee]

Black Monday

 

[BlueToff]

Sorry to be dim, but where does Bernard play in that scenario, exactly?

I'd say either in the position occupied by Gylfi or on either wing. Or, he's a sub. As I said, it means one of the four dropping out, or perhaps - in some scenarios - Gylfi dropping deeper, but I don't actually think that's the answer unless we're really pushing on like we did after Leicester went down to 10.

I'm treating it as a squad game, because we finally have a quality depth of players for those roles.

I think we saw v Palace how easy it is to target Walcott if he doesn't have space in behind.

I really like Theo and think he's a great player for us currently, but his skill is movement in behind and between the lines (the one chance he had came from quick passing and sharp movement from him).

So, the next time a team rocks up that's just gonna sit deep (maybe Newcastle), would it be worth trying Bernard/Richarlison on the right, with Walcott dropping to the bench?

You still have the pace of Richarlison and nippiness of Bernard, and since there's little space in behind, Walcott's sprinting ability wouldn't have as much of an impact from the start anyway, but we'd have him to bring on when/if the game gets stretched.

 

[Nymzee]

I'd say either in the position occupied by Gylfi or on either wing. Or, he's a sub. As I said, it means one of the four dropping out, or perhaps - in some scenarios - Gylfi dropping deeper, but I don't actually think that's the answer unless we're really pushing on like we did after Leicester went down to 10.

I'm treating it as a squad game, because we finally have a quality depth of players for those roles.

I think we saw v Palace how easy it is to target Walcott if he doesn't have space in behind.

I really like Theo and think he's a great player for us currently, but his skill is movement in behind and between the lines (the one chance he had came from quick passing and sharp movement from him).

So, the next time a team rocks up that's just gonna sit deep (maybe Newcastle), would it be worth trying Bernard/Richarlison on the right, with Walcott dropping to the bench?

You still have the pace of Richarlison and nippiness of Bernard, and since there's little space in behind, Walcott's sprinting ability wouldn't have as much of an impact from the start anyway, but we'd have him to bring on when/if the game gets stretched.

Thing is last two games we dropped Gylfi back and scored our goals.

 

[BlueToff]

Thing is last two games we dropped Gylfi back and scored our goals.

Yeh, but it's different circumstances to how we start games, mate.

For example, we dropped Gylfi back against Leicester because they'd gone down to 10, and he wanted to get Tosun on. As they were down to 10 there was more space for Gylfi to operate in what wasn't really a classic centre-mid role (like Gomes played). It was more an attacking role at the tip of a diamond, with Gueye sitting deep.

Then the other day, he dropped into a diamond again because we pretty much went 4-4-2.

So while I'm happy to test it out, the circumstances of the game have got to be right. We saw against West Ham that when he played there we just got cut open through the middle.

 

[toffeejack]

Silva got lucky with the subs. It might have ended 0-0 and could have ended worse. Don't get me wrong - I'm a huge fan but the game was a bit of a mess really.
Once the new faces settle in it'll be great, hopefully.

How did he get lucky? Surely if your using that basis every win is lucky because he chose the right players.