Manager Transfer Window

[ijjysmith]

So....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21957534

Paul Ince: Blackpool boss wants manager transfer window

Paul Ince fears the next generation of prospective British bosses will be put off a career in management after seeing 34 dismissed so far this season.
Blackpool boss Ince has called for the introduction of a window for clubs to make a change of manager if they wish.
Pool face Blackburn, who sacked Michael Appleton after 67 days, on Friday.
Ince told BBC Radio Lancashire: "Why would the Steven Gerrards and the Jamie Carraghers want to go into management when there's no protection for them?"
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We've got St George's Park and this great training facility, which are all about bringing young English coaches through, but where's the protection for them if they're getting sacked after 67 days?
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Blackpool manager Paul Ince
Richard Bevan, the chief executive of the League Managers' Association, described the spate of sackings in 2012-13 as "embarrassing".
And Ince, who was dismissed after just 177 days as Blackburn boss in 2008, believes the current turmoil at Ewood Park has strengthened the case for a "managerial window", similar to the transfer window that is currently in place for players.
"There needs to be some legislation where there's protection for managers," added the former England captain. "It needs to work both ways - not just for managers to get sacked, but for managers who want to leave.
"You look at Michael Appleton - he's a young English manager coming into the game. To lose your job after 67 days is ridiculous. We're not getting any time.
"We've got St George's Park and this great training facility, which are all about bringing young English coaches through, but where's the protection for them if they're getting sacked after 67 days?
"That's what disappoints me with the Blackburn situation. It's OK that we can protect players because they're on contracts. We can sell them in January, and if they don't want to go, they stay.
"It should be exactly the same as a manager. It stops all the commotion and it makes sense. Someone needs to seriously look at it."

This wouldn't work.

 

[tsubaki]

It wouldnt work, though something like in Spain where you cant poach another clubs manager during the season might be better than what we have now.

 

[ijjysmith]

It's be bloody carnage in the window.

 

[Librarian]

Sky sports news would be funny on deadline day

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I do think something has to be done about all these managers getting sacked but this isn't the answer

Maybe say a club can only have a max of 2 or 3 managers per season?

I think clubs should have the right to sack a manager if things aren't working out but if there was a limit to how many times they could do it, they would think harder about who they appoint I think. There's danger of course that this would make certain managers "bullet proof" and they might take the pish.

It's a tough question to answer but I do think something needs to be done, even if it's just finnancial penalties for teams who constantly sack managers

 

[ijjysmith]

I do think something has to be done about all these managers getting sacked but this isn't the answer

Maybe say a club can only have a max of 2 or 3 managers per season?

I think clubs should have the right to sack a manager if things aren't working out but if there was a limit to how many times they could do it, they would think harder about who they appoint I think. There's danger of course that this would make certain managers "bullet proof" and they might take the pish.

It's a tough question to answer but I do think something needs to be done, even if it's just finnancial penalties for teams who constantly sack managers

Thing is though mate, I don't think that would work.

It's very different to a player for example, you can just drop a player who isn't performing and replace him with another player. If a manager isn't performing then the only option is to get rid.

 

[sheeds]

How would this work ? Ince appears to be saying even if a manager is crap . so a team go on a run of consecutive and considerably heavier defeats but they can't sack him as its "not fair" , it's a job and if the bloke isn't performing its reasonable he loses his job.

 

[ijjysmith]

How would this work ? Ince appears to be saying even if a manager is crap . so a team go on a run of consecutive and considerably heavier defeats but they can't sack him as its "not fair" , it's a job and if the bloke isn't performing its reasonable he loves his job.

Exactly mate. It wouldn't work.

 

[Stend]

It wouldn't work at all. If your clubs doing crap under a current manager then sometimes you need to get shut quick in order to survive.

 

[neil999]

errrr...dont they get their contract paid off? people in media are wrongly comparing it too regular 9-5 jobs, its not like the sacked manager will be destitute, in my eyes the owner can get rid of them if they see fit...

 

[Blue Cheese]

What a stupid idea. If you're a business and your management is not producing you sack them, only difference is in football you get a nice hefty wedge for being dump. Ince forgets he would not be at blackpool under his transfer window idea the muppet.

 

[Neiler]

Its pretty sweet anyway even if you get the sack dont you get your contract paid anyway, Dalglish took about 10 mill out of his beloved Norway last year.

 

[Blue Cheese]

Its pretty sweet anyway even if you get the sack dont you get your contract paid anyway, Dalglish took about 10 mill out of his beloved Norway last year.

ended the year as one of the highest paid managers didn't he despite not managing.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Thing is though mate, I don't think that would work.

It's very different to a player for example, you can just drop a player who isn't performing and replace him with another player. If a manager isn't performing then the only option is to get rid.

Maybe substantial fines are the way to go then? Something has to be done about trigger happy chairman sacking managers after just 30-60 days. If other companies did this in the public sector there would be out cry and investigations. Can you imagine if something like RBS fired 4 executives in the space of 8 months? The FSA would investigate and could even close them down.

There needs to be something in place to stop teams going firing crazy. 30-60 days is no where near enough to gage whether a manager will do a good job or a bad one. How long did it take Alex Fergusson to win anything at United? Granted, he had prior success that he could draw from, but I think the point remains. There's always going to be a transition period when new management comes in. Imemdiate success is not always possible

 

[sheeds]

Its pretty sweet anyway even if you get the sack dont you get your contract paid anyway,

I don't support this manager window but I do think generally managers get both a harder time and have a bit more 'decency' than their players.

I was at dinner with a couple of people from football and they were explaining to somebody else there the difference between managers and players , it's probably boring but I felt it was informative .

A team get beaten on the Saturday , the last few minutes the manager is chasing it and gets heavily booed for a iffy substitution and then booed of the park. They go into the dressing room where he gives the players a talking to and they maybe tell him it was his tactics then the assistant , the coaches and him sit and talk about where it went wrong. The manager goes out and gets asked hard and insulting questions by the tv, radio and written media before heading off where the chief exec makes a few points to him and has a little go. The manager drives home and the radio is retired pros and failed managers telling him where he got it wrong and fans upset about the result ring in to rubbish him, generally not the players who made a mess of this and that but him. The managers gets home and looks at the OPTA stats and watches the footage to see what's happens and rings the coach again to discuss where it went Wrong and how they'll sort it next week. The manager watches Sky Sports News shows more retired pros saying how useless he is before the chairman and owner ring on a conference call to tell him it's not good enough and demand he explains himself and wonder why he isn't play the wonderkid everyone 'just knows' will make it. Then its football first where yet more managers with relegations on their CV point out his errors and what he needs to do. Obviously the manager has had to stay in because it wouldn't do to be seen out and es up in the morning for more of the same from the Sunday papers and television media and the bloke who was sacked for him to get the Job and the former captain he sold are putting the boot in , that's before he has to go in with the assistant and make his plans to sort out training for next week and try and prevent it happening again .

The player well he walks off where he picks up his Louis Vuitton washbag, sticks on his Beats and heads into Manchester for a glass of Cristal and shags a brass or two.