Manager out. Vote

Should we sack silva

  • Yes

    Votes: 374 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 499 44.5%
  • I’m a fence sitting kenwright lover

    Votes: 62 5.5%
  • Didn’t want him in the first place

    Votes: 187 16.7%

  • Total voters
    1,122
  • Poll closed .
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Missed the boat on Bielsa.
But then you get the feeling the powers that be wouldn't have been able stomach his personality and leadership mooring itself here.
Which maybe getting part ways to the root of the problem...eh Ken?

I just don't know anymore, since Moyes left, after that first great season of Martinez we have had 3 managers, nearly changed the entire squad but seem to be having the same problem, that being players who aren't up for a fight and a fanbase that demand fighting be the very least they do.

I am devoid of any answers as to how we change it given how angry and impatient everyone is all the time.
 

No, because this will just carry on happening until we drag ourselves down.

In a different manager climate, Moyes almost did exactly that in his second season, we stuck by him because we couldn't afford to do anything else, but the stability that followed can't be overlooked.

Furthermore Moshiri will be well aware that questions will start to be asked about his credentials if he keeps twisting and getting it wrong.

Let's also not forget, a lot of this mess can still be attributed to the legacy of Steve Walsh.
 
I voted no, but since I am always making a counterpoint:

It could be argued that the season is already over. If true, we sack him and have plenty of time to make a responsible decision ahead of next season
 
No, because this will just carry on happening until we drag ourselves down.

In a different manager climate, Moyes almost did exactly that in his second season, we stuck by him because we couldn't afford to do anything else, but the stability that followed can't be overlooked.

Furthermore Moshiri will be well aware that questions will start to be asked about his credentials if he keeps twisting and getting it wrong.

Let's also not forget, a lot of this mess can still be attributed to the legacy of Steve Walsh.

Superb post! Take note you gang of knee jerkers
 

Mate I am in the stick with him camp but calling people knee jerkers given Marcos track record and 2 wins in 11, is daft. It's hardly knee jerking when you see what has gone on before and what is happening for 2 months here? I think people have every right to ask questions.
On previous form, they would have no expectation of answers though
 
I voted no, but since I am always making a counterpoint:

It could be argued that the season is already over. If true, we sack him and have plenty of time to make a responsible decision ahead of next season
I hope and pray it is already over,lose another few on the bounce, and that might not be the case.
 
Mate I am in the stick with him camp but calling people knee jerkers given Marcos track record and 2 wins in 11, is daft. It's hardly knee jerking when you see what has gone on before and what is happening for 2 months here? I think people have every right to ask questions.

Mate I agree with the form is pretty bad, and it needs addressing sacking him ( now ) isn’t the answer and we just go round and round in circles
 
Mate I agree with the form is pretty bad, and it needs addressing sacking him ( now ) isn’t the answer and we just go round and round in circles

I totally agree but I can also understand the other point of view. It's how football is now, you don't get time, too much money at stake. Fans starved of success, Mosh lifted expectations on a Club that had won nowt since 95 and the League 87, this is the outcome, entitled fans, who in reality haven't moved forward despite money.
 

I fear we may be the next Villa. I hope not. We'll only attract players who don't want to be here for vast wages if we have the stability of the same manager. Before December he was doing alright. We just need to rediscover that form again.

He needs another summer to clear out our dross, only then can we really assess where this club is going. Hopefully that's not going to be too late.
 
It is said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.

Well, we’ve tried Zonal Marking, it hasn’t worked but we will no doubt do it again in our next match, with exactly the same results. We’ve tried playing without a recognised Striker and will do so again. We have a good group of players, better than for many a year, I just wish we would prepare and use them correctly.....
 
Our most successful periods ever have been with old boys at the helm, why can't it happen again?

Its not such a perfect record although there was only one Howard.

Our most successful manager ever, did have an absolutely glorious spell here as a manager but his subsequent spells on his return weren't so happy. It was also a different era when there wasn't a huge financial barrier between us and the likes of City, United or Chelsea, Liverpool too now are far, far wealthier, even Arsenal.

Finance like it or not will put limits on our ambitions, and is why perhaps Spurs achievements, although no cups, but just on even being up there so consistently and regularly achieving Champions League on a far smaller budget, more akin to ours, is so meritorious.

Joe Royle won our last trophy but at the same time he very nearly took us down too and was generally a disastrous manager for me.

OGS at Utd has to now be in pole position to take the job permanently but United would still be wise not to leave a definite decision until later.

There are so many points now in Solskjaer's favour that it is looking with every game that he now has be their man.

He's shown adaptability and tactical awareness in both setting them up and the game plan.

He's extremely popular with their fanbase and knows United the club, their traditions and philosophy as regards the playing style and attacking football.

Tactically against Spurs and Friday night against Arsenal he showed excellent awareness of just where to hit the opposition targeting their weakest links, Friday for me was a more complete performance than the Spurs one, the latter really could have won easily but for de Gea.

So it's sensible still for them to wait until far nearer the end of the season when he'll have months and months of solid work and possibly results behind him, but he couldn't have made a better start to the job.

Pochettino for me may still be their way to go if things don't go as well for OGS between now and April/May.

Spurs, as Arsenal did, have and will suffer from the huge burden of financing the building of a very large modern stadium in the capital, the expense and capital that soaks up is immense and has to be managed and spread over a long period.

They are not one of the richest clubs in England to start with, financially speaking they aren't even anything like as big as Arsenal were when they went through it. They have to operate a very strict wage structure and are comparatively low payers even for their top players. Poch has to a large extent performed a minor miracle to keep them anywhere near the top over recent years, its constantly an extraordinarily difficult balancing act.

He hasn't been one to complain overtly about the board, about the spending, about keeping his top players tied to contracts when they know they could get far far more with virtually any move anywhere, or more recently about the crushing injury list and no goalscorers available. Son goes to an Asian cup, its not another burden but an opportunity, the cover and reserve options such as Llorente are desperately poor too, nowhere near replacing like with like. To not bring it up as so many would, to virtually not complain at all, is a club owner's dream.

He has only recently started to offer hints on the lack of transfer activity at Spurs over a period being a drawback on ambition and the need to have a target and budget for it, where do they want to get? He may think his players are about to break ranks, there has been plenty of talk on Erikson, once one goes and contracts come up for renewal, it could lead to others.

He may now feel he's taken the club as far as it can go without strengthening, in other words new stadium or not, no spending will limit future progress.

United may find him far more willing to come than is generally expected, Levy will be difficult but it could be worth it.

Solskjaer right now, after Friday night, is definitely in pole position, but now isn't April or May, if then OGS can point to a lengthier and possibly sustained spell of success in his temporary role the clamour to make it permanent may well become unstoppable, but until then United won't be rushing to close other avenues down just yet.
 
I totally agree but I can also understand the other point of view. It's how football is now, you don't get time, too much money at stake. Fans starved of success, Mosh lifted expectations on a Club that had won nowt since 95 and the League 87, this is the outcome, entitled fans, who in reality haven't moved forward despite money.

We haven’t moved forward for all the money we’ve spent but you have to take into account Steve Walsh and koeman have wrecked this club with the signings
 
We haven’t moved forward for all the money we’ve spent but you have to take into account Steve Walsh and koeman have wrecked this club with the signings

That's half the problem, Silva is partly suffering because we've seen this all before and we know where it ends up and regardless of last 2 seasons, it's him in the driving seat now and so it's his job to turn this around. I think a lot of frustration towards him is the last 2 seasons and his not very impressive record in this league. Nobody knows if he's capable of turning it around as he's never had a full season before in this division.

He needs to fight for his job, nobody is going to offer him a hug-a-thon with these results.
 

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