Transfer Rumour Malick Fofana

[Blue peter]

Let them meet the price then. We should be trying to save money on all our deals like we did with Barry. You don’t just give the selling club everything they want.

Not sure given how attractive we are that in this initial window you can negotiate (or certainly draw out the negotiation by ‘playing the market’ - that’s a sure way to miss out. You get your better targets in quickly (if that means less negotiation then so be it) and then performances should improve, we achieve better PL finishes, achieve Europe and become more attractive to the better players. Once that has been done you become more attractive because your profile is raised. All clubs that have had some degree of money have done exactly that.

Not football related, but in my career, a motor insurer come to Liverpool and started recruiting. Their salaries at that time were over the local salary banding because they knew they had to attract the best talent. and created a buzz with existing insurance employees. Once they went live in a Liverpool, in that first year, they then started to align their salaries with the competition. This is how it should be done. I think the only reason it probably hasn’t is because of PSR restrictions and squad enforcement needs so we cannot spend a lot on one player, so if you can’t afford to the above you target more reasonable players at a slightly lesser cost who will improve the team and squad, that just aren’t at the same level as the above players. It’s an iterative process window to window.

 

[MisterJ]

CL clubs can only take so many players, unless he's so determined to play in the competition he goes off and signs for some Eastern European side in the tournament

 

[Fonzy]

But then we’re signing someone on for a big fee who doesn’t really want to play for us and you can bet after a year he’ll be trying to go.

Every player wants to be in champs league its the standard response!

So its no shock he’s the same however we’ll like double/triple his wages.

Put him in the biggest league & if he performs he’ll get a champs leaague team come knocking

 

[blue to the bone]

CL clubs can only take so many players, unless he's so determined to play in the competition he goes off and signs for some Eastern European side in the tournament

If he was at that level already the big clubs would have signed him by now .

 

[Nymzee]

Every player wants to be in champs league its the standard response!

So its no shock he’s the same however we’ll like double/triple his wages.

Put him in the biggest league & if he performs he’ll get a champs leaague team come knocking

I just want players that want to play for Everton. If he signs now, we’ll do that dumb interview asking him why he wanted to come here etc. and without lying he’d just say “had to basically”

 

[Blue peter]

Lets wait and see, hes probably 3rd or 4th choice at CL clubs.

This is how the market works, you get to mid August and some of these lads just fall and look for the contract.

As reported yesterday the club are in contact with player reps and club - that doesn't sound like there isn't a deal there to me, might be unlikely or even ideal from the players point of view, but its not a flat walk away.

I think that’s the problem though isn’t it mate? You either wanted them in earlier (as per Moyes) or you watch the market from your place in the chain which means August. They are contradictory especially when you consider the reported quality of player we are going for.

The only clubs that do those types of deals earlier are the scab six or clubs with European football. A reported talent like Fofana who has a number of the more successful clubs looking at him, isn’t going to join us or clubs like us early in the window so what is the club playing at? Seems completely disingenuous or completely naive. I am sure there are delusional of grandeur at the club.

 

[Neiler]

I think that’s the problem though isn’t it mate? You either wanted them in earlier (as per Moyes) or you watch the market from your place in the chain which means August. They are contradictory especially when you consider the reported quality of player we are going for.

The only clubs that do those types of deals earlier are the scab six or clubs with European football. A reported talent like Fofana who has a number of the more successful clubs looking at him, isn’t going to join us or clubs like us early in the window so what is the club playing at? Seems completely disingenuous or completely naive. I am sure there are delusional of grandeur at the club.

All that is true mate.

But if you are being totally self reflective, we are victim of our own incompetency.

We've been awful and awfully run for 10 if not 15 years, we're asking players to take our project on trust and that a big ask for alid with a chance in the the CL. Its not impressible, we poached Thireno, but we also need to be realistic.

Until we are better, we arent going to the tree Bayern and Chelsea are shopping at picking top branch fruit, we'll be waiting for the ones left behind. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though - we've come home with Barry and the Bayern left full already - but we can accept knocks also.

We need to be patiently, humble, the best thing we can do is improve this year and begin to change the perception of us in World Football.

 

[Lanolin]

But then we’re signing someone on for a big fee who doesn’t really want to play for us and you can bet after a year he’ll be trying to go.

Nobody really wants to play for us though do they? I mean even I’d rather play for Real Madrid and I’ve had a season ticket for 30 years.

 

[Blue peter]

Does a bid submitted not at least suggest that the player is open to the move? otherwise what is the point in even bidding?

I believe Bobble when he says that the first bid was submitted & rejected..

It suggests that the agent has led us down the path (as all agents are likely to do), the player either gets more interest from more successful clubs by making our interest know via a social media journo oir alternatively at the end of the contract if the player doesn’t get a better offer, he has an offer there is x per week which is probably far higher than he is on at the moment and he gets to put himself in the shop window for a year in the PL.

No agent is ever going to shut the door on a potential opportunity but they will wait it out. We are all in a chain so you never knew the ripple effect one move has on the market (like dominoes).

 

[McCallsVolley]

Do you think linking a talented player then failing to complete that transfer is more likely to placate or frustrate the fan base?

Depends on the fan of course. But do you think Everton thought it was likely after he turned down Forest for UCL football 4 weeks ago?

 

[Axlswhk]

all so predictable.

 

[Blue peter]

All that is true mate.

But if you are being totally self reflective, we are victim of our own incompetency.

We've been awful and awfully run for 10 if not 15 years, we're asking players to take our project on trust and that a big ask for alid with a chance in the the CL. Its not impressible, we poached Thireno, but we also need to be realistic.

Until we are better, we arent going to the tree Bayern and Chelsea are shopping at picking top branch fruit, we'll be waiting for the ones left behind. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try though - we've come home with Barry and the Bayern left full already - but we can accept knocks also.

We need to be patiently, humble, the best thing we can do is improve this year and begin to change the perception of us in World Football.

Completely correct, so be self aware, understand the sh1tshow it’s been and cut your cloth accordingly when it comes to the targets, just feels like there has been no realism at the club, which is fine, but they need to use their instincts and move on quickly if they think we are being played.