We will get a fee set by a tribunal! - no where near his potential value though!
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Yeah its a shame mate.
We miight get a set of tracksuits for him
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Player Valuation: £1.5m
Wasn't saying he was finished,
He's had a horrific injury and is obviously having difficulties recovering,
IF it looks like he won't be the same player he needs replacing,Baines will obviously start and have Robertson as no2.
We paid a million and trained him up thats the compensation we will get 2-3 million for an under 21 England left back typical EFC!
Tbh I think the move by Luke Shaw to Man United might have worried Garbutt, they had been competing fairly evenly iirc in the England U21s but Shaw's selection for the World Cup and his huge deal at Utd probably concentrated the mind that he needed first team football for his own career to keep pace.
Unless we sold one of Oviedo or Baines plus reduced the game time of the one we kept he was never going to get that here. Getting him a new contract and then a loan move until Baines winds down sounds great from our point of view but for him would have been both less money than a Bosman and less security he'd get regular game time than just moving to a club himself.
I see your point but i still think the club is to blame in this situation.
He still needs a season breaking into the team if he signs for lets say bournemouth expecting to play every week it could ruin him.
Sorry, don't understand why?
I mean if he thinks he is ready to play every week in the premier league and gets picked to he could get burnt.
He needs a season playing a few games learning then taken out then playing a few more and so on.
He is not ready to be a regular in a premier league team yet.
...I have a theory for the folk who think that had he played more this season he would've signed a new contract. My theory is that his mind has been made up for at least 18 months and probably 2 years. This is the time when he will have been approached about a new contract. He will have known Baines was signing a lucrative new deal. Had he played more games this season and been a success it would've upped the amount he demanded on a Bosman. It's naive to think it would've changed his mind.
Disagree, think he is ready to play regularly and if he isn't then at least attempting to will help him figure out the areas he needs to work on, be they mental or physical, to do so. He played lots of games at lower levels out on loan, he needs to test himself at premier league level now but think he'll do pretty well although with a few blips along the way as all young players have.
But guess both Luke and us will find out!
Will have to agree to disagree mate.
Like you say only time will tell
There were rumours that they would try and offer us a fee so they could get it all wrapped up cleanly without going to tribunal - have you heard anything about that?
You can't really blame him if that's the case. It's a win win for him, more dosh, regular footy and regardless of what happens at Bournemouth he's in the shop window for bigger clubs .
marty mcfly
Player Valuation: £40m
He was a class act in pre season and with one year on his deal I'm sure the club offered him a new contract if not before then certainly around that time.
I totally agree. He was gone the moment Baines signed a new deal.
If it's true we should never have given him a 3 year contract when we signed him in the first place. After that there was nothing anyone could do assuming you wanted Baines to stay.
Actually it might have been the reason Moyes thought he could get Baines relatively cheaply knowing he had provided his ready made replacement.
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