Transfer Rumour John McGinn

[davids]

He's on his way down but you don't think your 35 year-old midfielder is?

Think the difference is there'll be a fee with little realistic chance of any sell on. With Gueye it's a year with an option with just his wages.

 

[Zatara]

He's on his way down but you don't think your 35 year-old midfielder is?

I dont see the correlation between a player involving a sizeable fee (no doubt) and extending an existing players contract.

Reckon if he was called Jón Caralho from Lap Palmas, Zat would be all over it.

What a daft comment.

 

[Amokachi1995]

He'd immediately improve our team but still not a move I'd favour, given they would want a decent fee for him.

If we're going for an ex Villa midfielder let's make it Douglas Luiz.

 

[matty1878]

we will/ want get better

 

[HKContractDave]

John McGinn: Aston Villa fend off Everton interest in Scotland midfielder

Everton are interested in Aston Villa captain John McGinn but Unai Emery's side have no wish to sell the Scotland midfielder.

www.bbc.com

 

[peterw]

I dont see the correlation between a player involving a sizeable fee (no doubt) and extending an existing players contract.




What a daft comment.

The point being about the comment that McGinn is on the way down. He's 4 years younger than one of your midfielders who isn't considered to be on his way down so why should McGinn be?

 

[peterw]

I did not say they were the same, I said they treat player costs similarly. I think I counted me typing "they are different" at least three times.

Your article doesn't mention the components of SCR. I'm actually not sure what point you're trying to make with that link.

If you sell a player, it is a gain/loss for both SCR and PSR. It's just a fact, whether you accept it or not.

And I pointed out that selling a player has absolutely zero influence on SCR. But you keep saying it does. I can't help you with that one, but you'll catch on when more clubs become affected by SCR and you actually have more understanding of what it is and what it isn't.

 

[Zatara]

The point being about the comment that McGinn is on the way down. He's 4 years younger than one of your midfielders who isn't considered to be on his way down so why should McGinn be?

You dont know my view on Gana then

There were a few demanding a 2 year deal for him, i thought it was too risky and 1 year max seemed appropriate.

In the end hes signed for 1 year and there is an option for another.

As I said, McGinn is a good player. Would be be a wise investment? Can his form fall off a cliff, can his legs go?

Not worth the risk not the fee.

 

[pfim]

And I pointed out that selling a player has absolutely zero influence on SCR. But you keep saying it does. I can't help you with that one, but you'll catch on when more clubs become affected by SCR and you actually have more understanding of what it is and what it isn't.

It does. I provided two separate links from two separate sources.

I don't need to catch on, I have two eyes and reading comprehension.

Have a good day.

 

[peterw]

It does. I provided two separate links from two separate sources.

I don't need to catch on, I have two eyes and reading comprehension.

Have a good day.

Christ on a bike,

I'll give you another link

Goodbye PSR? A look at the new financial control systems being trialled by the Premier League from 2024/25

The 2024/25 Premier League season continued with a host of unanswered questions regarding financial controls and breaches. Supporters expect to hear about decisions and rulings on breaches of the current regime ‘Profit and Sustainability Rules’ (“PSR”) for Manchester City, and Chelsea FC, as...

kennedyslaw.com

It has nothing to do with player sales. It never has. It really is that simple. It would for you if you BUY McGinn, but wouldn't for us if we SELL McGinn. Therefore, selling McGinn has no benefit for us relating to SCR which is not a reason for us to consider the sale.

Come on. You'll get there.

 

[pfim]

Christ on a bike,

I'll give you another link

Goodbye PSR? A look at the new financial control systems being trialled by the Premier League from 2024/25

The 2024/25 Premier League season continued with a host of unanswered questions regarding financial controls and breaches. Supporters expect to hear about decisions and rulings on breaches of the current regime ‘Profit and Sustainability Rules’ (“PSR”) for Manchester City, and Chelsea FC, as...

kennedyslaw.com

It has nothing to do with player sales. It never has. It really is that simple. It would for you if you BUY McGinn, but wouldn't for us if we SELL McGinn. Therefore, selling McGinn has no benefit for us relating to SCR which is not a reason for us to consider the sale.

Come on. You'll get there.

Dude!!! It says it right in your link:

• Wages of players and head coaches
• Player amortisation and impairment
• Termination payments for players and head coaches
• Agents’ fees and cost of other intermediaries

Divided by the sum of:

• Operating revenue (adjusted for fair value, if required)

• Profit from player sales​

• Other transfer income/expenses
  

You sum up the first group, which are expenses.

You sum up the second group, which are revenues (THAT INCLUDES PLAYER SALES)

You get your SCR percentage.

I put the point of contention in bold, italics, 26 font and red.

Is this real life? My Lord.

 

[wainy]

Stinks of his agent linking him to us so Villa pay up.

 

[peterw]

Dude!!! It says it right in your link:


You sum up the first group, which are expenses.

You sum up the second group, which are revenues (THAT INCLUDES PLAYER SALES)

You get your SCR percentage.

I put the point of contention in bold, italics, 26 font and red.

Is this real life? My Lord.

No - it doesn't say player sales anywhere. You don't amortise sales only buys. Really. I will give up because you clearly don't know and it will take for the Premier league to adopt it, or for Everton to qualify for Europe before you understand it. we've had it for a couple of years now so I'm slightly more used to it. No bother. You are wrong you just don't know it yet. You will in time.

 

[pfim]

No - it doesn't say player sales anywhere. You don't amortise sales only buys. Really. I will give up because you clearly don't know and it will take for the Premier league to adopt it, or for Everton to qualify for Europe before you understand it. we've had it for a couple of years now so I'm slightly more used to it. No bother. You are wrong you just don't know it yet. You will in time.

I copied and pasted the quoted text. Directly from your link. I'm really trying not to name call here, but you're either blind or just a wind up.

It literally says, in the revenue bullet points, "Profit from player sales." From your link. That you provided. In this thread. Click on it again and read it this time.

I hope you're not an accountant. Why the hell would you amortize sales? Where did I say that?

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

I'm quite disgusted with this link.

The player himself with his wholehearted attitude is positive.

31 in October so we'd be getting a player whose game is all about industry and effort...on the way down, no doubt for a £20mil+ fee and big wages.

This smells like a David Moyes West Ham signing.

"Elite players for an elite stadium" he said....yet were after McGinn?

Ashley Williams all over again