• Participation within this 'World Football' is only available to members who have had 5+ posts approved elsewhere.

Joey Barton/Beckham what do they both have in common?

Status
Not open for further replies.
It is a shame for both players and coaches really. You'll get people like Sturridge at Chelsea, or quite probably Sinclair now at City or maybe Johnson before him, that would rather sit in the reserves than try their luck abroad. I've got a lot of respect for people like Joe Cole and Steve McClaren for giving it a go, and by and large being successful, even though neither are regarded as such back here.

Another thing to remember of course is that it's a sad indictment of our national team that it isn't a pre-requisite that you need to be playing regularly for your club side to play for the national side. You can guarantee for instance that Rodwell will earn more caps for Man City reserves than he ever would for Everton first team.
 

England were the only team at the Euros to have their entire squad play in their own country, I quite like that fact personally.
 
Woodgate, Owen, Beckham and McManaman were all at Madrid weren't they?

From what I can remember, when they played they all did well when they were playing. Although Owen became some kind of assist machine rather than goal machine.
 
Very good thread.

From an Australian point of view, the theory is that you need a player that inspires other teams to buy other players of the same nationality. Kewell made the English take notice of Australian youth and they started buying some up. Didn't really work. Same is happening with Belgium at the moment, but that will work.

As for the English, they need a great player to go abroad and impress other leagues. Owen was a flop, Beckham was there for marketing etc... If Rooney went to a foreign club, IMO, it would instigate a trend of other players doing the same if he impressed with his talent (depending on wages/fees). At the moment, I think other leagues think English players are rough hacks. The English have learned nothing and forgotten so much.
 

I'm old enough to remember when the complaint was that all of our top stars play abroad.

When Italy last won the world cup there was a big thing made about the fact that all of the team were home based.
 
It's all about improving isn't it? The big argument against British players is that they're lacking technically and tactically over their European counterparts, and this is shown up when England play in major tournaments as we struggle to keep the ball.

So I suppose the argument is that playing in foreign lands would provide that education and experience. Of course regular exposure to Champions League football might also do that, but many of our young players don't play regularly for their club sides.

Now many may argue that a player won't learn so much (technically at least) by the time they're in the first team, so efforts to improve them technically won't do much. Hard to make Carroll into Abramovich for instance.

Broadly though I'm still in favour of it, as it takes people out of their comfort zone, and it's generally when you're out of your comfort zone that you improve, both as a professional and as an individual.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
It's all about improving isn't it? The big argument against British players is that they're lacking technically and tactically over their European counterparts, and this is shown up when England play in major tournaments as we struggle to keep the ball.

So I suppose the argument is that playing in foreign lands would provide that education and experience. Of course regular exposure to Champions League football might also do that, but many of our young players don't play regularly for their club sides.

Now many may argue that a player won't learn so much (technically at least) by the time they're in the first team, so efforts to improve them technically won't do much. Hard to make Carroll into Abramovich for instance.

Broadly though I'm still in favour of it, as it takes people out of their comfort zone, and it's generally when you're out of your comfort zone that you improve, both as a professional and as an individual.
Click to expand...

Ibrahimovic? I dont think Andy has the bottle to face down KGB assassins on a regular basis.
 

Thought the answer was obvious, both their surnames begin with B, but of course that would have been too obvious, grabs coat on way out. :o:o:o
 
As a few have said, the reason is money. How many clubs could someone like Osman or Jags play for in another country that would pay them what they get here? The only ones who could afford to pay don't want them as there are much cheaper options available of similar quality.
I wouldn't be surprised if the wages in the Championship are much less than the top leagues in Germany, Netherlands, Portugal. If a player has the chance to earn 15K/week at a world famous club like Benfica, or 30K at Blackpool - 99% of them will choose Blackpool.
Oh, and whoever talked about British players and used Denis Irwin as an example............
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join Grand Old Team to get involved in the Everton discussion. Signing up is quick, easy, and completely free.

Register

Shop

Back
Top