Joe Royle

[Raymondo077]

phew..not dead

Puts everything into perspective.

 

[Tramps_mate]

Because he couldn't sign tore Andre flo. When the chairman basically is telling you, you can't sign a player who you want, the writing is on the wall.

Martinez wants Messi...

Bill said no.

Bye bye Martinez...

 

[McMagic]

Saw Joe Royle on 'Sky' 'Time of our lives' with Kendal and Harvey, a good laugh, until Kendal looked at Royle and said something like " You can't call yourself a manager if you've only won the cup". How Royle never lamped him, Christ alone knows.
I didn't rate Joe as a player or a manager, but as a man, first class.
Howard Kendal, great player, great manager, poor man.

 

[1966efc]

Saw Joe Royle on 'Sky' 'Time of our lives' with Kendal and Harvey, a good laugh, until Kendal looked at Royle and said something like " You can't call yourself a manager if you've only won the cup". How Royle never lamped him, Christ alone knows.
I didn't rate Joe as a player or a manager, but as a man, first class.
Howard Kendal, great player, great manager, poor man.

When he started as a player, he got a lot of criticism from the terraces, didn't he?

Can remember one game, against Leeds in '69 when they were a real force, where he destroyed them. Otherwise, always had the niggling feeling he could have scored a few more. Mind you, he had to contend with Bally!

 

[blue_aussie05]

When he started as a player, he got a lot of criticism from the terraces, didn't he?

Can remember one game, against Leeds in '69 when they were a real force, where he destroyed them. Otherwise, always had the niggling feeling he could have scored a few more. Mind you, he had to contend with Bally!

As a young lad, similar aged to Lukaku, he had a far better goals tally than he did. He scored 20 in 67/68 as a 18-19 year old, 29 in 68/69, then 23 in 69/70 and 70/71. So he'd scored an average of nearly 24 goals a season over 4 years before he was 22 years old.

Imagine if Lukaku did that, everyone would be ecstatic. Or, more to the point, what would we think these days if someone that age came from our youth team now and was banging in 20+ goals a season? That's a saving of £28-30m right there!!

 

[1966efc]

As a young lad, similar aged to Lukaku, he had a far better goals tally than he did. He scored 20 in 67/68 as a 18-19 year old, 29 in 68/69, then 23 in 69/70 and 70/71. So he'd scored an average of nearly 24 goals a season over 4 years before he was 22 years old.

Imagine if Lukaku did that, everyone would be ecstatic. Or, more to the point, what would we think these days if someone that age came from our youth team now and was banging in 20+ goals a season? That's a saving of £28-30m right there!!

Absolutely.

Thing is, Royle had a midfield and wingers who were flinging in chances like there was no tomorrow. Bally occasionally crowded his space, I think, but just maybe a Denis Law would have been getting 35 a season with that kind of service. All ifs buts and maybes. The endgame was that Joe managed to convert the doubters before he moved on and was part of what another member of this site has described as the best club side England has seen.

 

[blue_aussie05]

Except it wasn't. Who was our replacement for Hinchcliffe? Who was our replacement for Kanchelskis? Who was our replacement for Parkinson? Who was replacing the aging Watson and Southall?

I don't disagree with you, but the only people who needed replacing where Hinchcliffe, Kanchelskis and Parkinson. These were all done with far inferior players.

You said earlier in the thread that Parkinson was the biggest loss, but I'd actually say Kanchekskis was. We hadn't had what he added to our team for many years, and still haven't had it again since.

As I said, Parkinson was in our team throughout the plummet we'd already been experiencing for 3 months. He only got injured 3 matches before Royle left, so it's not like our plummet coincided with his loss at all

 

[blue_aussie05]

Shame his Everton management career that way, cos the first two and a half seasons were very good.

I liked him, as a manager, a person and an ambassador for the club. Was too young to see him as a player

 

[Joey66]

When he started as a player, he got a lot of criticism from the terraces, didn't he?

Can remember one game, against Leeds in '69 when they were a real force, where he destroyed them. Otherwise, always had the niggling feeling he could have scored a few more. Mind you, he had to contend with Bally!

Joe went on to score goals for City - he was a workhorse, not like the Latch who was a goal poacher!

 

[Joey66]

Absolutely.

Thing is, Royle had a midfield and wingers who were flinging in chances like there was no tomorrow. Bally occasionally crowded his space, I think, but just maybe a Denis Law would have been getting 35 a season with that kind of service. All ifs buts and maybes. The endgame was that Joe managed to convert the doubters before he moved on and was part of what another member of this site has described as the best club side England has seen.

Talking rubbish 5 TH highest ever EFC goal scorer!

 

[Joey66]

Shame his Everton management career that way, cos the first two and a half seasons were very good.

I liked him, as a manager, a person and an ambassador for the club. Was too young to see him as a player

I might be biased as he was my boyhood hero, but if ever a centre forward put a shift in it was big Joe - he could shoot with both feet - a great player back to goal - he was a great header of the ball compare his record to big Dunc Joe was a true EFC legend not an icon like big Dunc!

 

[Joey66]

Big Joe's record as manager is of someone who could turn a bad performing side into a better one but who couldn't stop downturns in fortunes thereafter.

Look he could have signed Flo and a centre half for 1 million - how much did Flo get bought for later on in his career? Agent Johnson blocked that deal, and Joe rightly walked away!Read his autobiography!

 

[blue_aussie05]

Look he could have signed Flo and a centre half for 1 million - how much did Flo get bought for later on in his career? Agent Johnson blocked that deal, and Joe rightly walked away!Read his autobiography!

Alright la, keep your knickers on.

 

[Joey66]

When he started as a player, he got a lot of criticism from the terraces, didn't he?

Can remember one game, against Leeds in '69 when they were a real force, where he destroyed them. Otherwise, always had the niggling feeling he could have scored a few more. Mind you, he had to contend with Bally!

Yes he did get hammered on the terraces when he first started replacing the golden vision -nowadays on this forum he would have got slaughtered on here, but a a young lad I could see his potential - He stayed back to do extra training every day became an England international the hardest working talented scoring centre forward you would wish to see, a complete footballer Sir Matt Busby tried to sign him when he was in School football luckily he chose us!

 

[Joey66]

Alright la, keep your knickers on.

Alright la, keep your knickers on.

My I am getting carried away look at my advatar