2023/24 Jack Harrison

[Ring master]

These reports we've seen today about we had no deal set up, and we have to see during the summer etc, again make no sense. As we were told when we loaned him that we had a deal set up to buy him already arranged & included in the deal going by a lot fo reports, with reports even a few weeks later saying we may even trigger the loan to perm deal then. As always with reports it's which one you believe.

 

[Goodisongang]

3 league assists and 1 goal

McNeil has 4 and 2.

Don’t forget was injured early on and our form turned around completely when he started playing

3 goals from 18 game from your two wingers is a poor return though.

they are in the team to do lots of defensive work, but they need to improve in front of goal.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

3 goals from 18 game from your two wingers is a poor return though.

they are in the team to do lots of defensive work, but they need to improve in front of goal.

Agree with that. Was just pointing out that Harrison gets far more stuck than McNeil with end product thrown at him. They are pretty similar in that space

 

[formerly manx toffee]

N

These reports we've seen today about we had no deal set up, and we have to see during the summer etc, again make no sense. As we were told when we loaned him that we had a deal set up to buy him already arranged & included in the deal going by a lot fo reports, with reports even a few weeks later saying we may even trigger the loan to perm deal then. As always with reports it's which one you believe.

Not sure that’s true. Deal always had no right to buy. When he signed his new contract with Leeds earlier this year it had two clauses. 1) if relegated he could go on loan 2) a release clause for 15-20m (have seen both numbers).
The loan deal with Everton has no right to buy but his personal contract has a release clause

 

[Moonlight dribbler]

Depends how high the ambition is, if it's to stay just above the bottom 3, fine then buy him, if for £10 million.

 

[Ring master]

N

Not sure that’s true. Deal always had no right to buy. When he signed his new contract with Leeds earlier this year it had two clauses. 1) if relegated he could go on loan 2) a release clause for 15-20m (have seen both numbers).
The loan deal with Everton has no right to buy but his personal contract has a release clause

That may well be true, but as said reports weeks later said there was a deal in place for a perm move included in the deal, with the same reports saying we may trigger it then, instead of waiting. As always we never know what stuff been said is true or not.

 

[Goodisongang]

Agree with that. Was just pointing out that Harrison gets far more stuck than McNeil with end product thrown at him. They are pretty similar in that space

aye, harrison probably stands out more because he always tries to run at the full back and loses the ball more, where mcneil is a bit more "safe" on the ball.

 

[DualityNSNO]

aye, harrison probably stands out more because he always tries to run at the full back and loses the ball more, where mcneil is a bit more "safe" on the ball.

Because McNeil has concrete legs probably.

 

[Drico]

Working hard is part of playing a team sport, if you can't do it then you shouldn't be anywhere near a team sport let alone at this level. I worry that many of our fans seem to see 'working hard' as an attribute when it's not. It's the bare basics of any sport whether it's in the local park or at PL level.

You’re right, but when the likes of Iwobi stroll around amongst myriad similar signings, you can see why fans don’t take it for granted.

Harrison is an honest plodder and a clever player. But he’s not worth more than 10m in my book.

 

[Blackwell Livermore]

Beagrie-esque. Hangs on to it for too long but occasionally delivers a bit of class

Can he somersault though?

 

[Gilbert..]

Working hard is part of playing a team sport, if you can't do it then you shouldn't be anywhere near a team sport let alone at this level. I worry that many of our fans seem to see 'working hard' as an attribute when it's not. It's the bare basics of any sport whether it's in the local park or at PL level.

There is a difference between working hard and doing it for the team. Nobody ran around more than alex iwobi but his actual contribution was nothing. He never tracked or tackled the opposition. Hence Everton hardly strung any decent wins back to back.
i wouldnt knock hard work under a clear instruction from the manager. Top class sides mirror ability and hard work. Unless anyone hasnt noticed we cant go out and buy top class ability so having players who fit into a system and genuinely buy into it is the next best thing. I honestly dont get what people are moaning about. For the first time in a while the group we have are all buying into a really good bond of put the work in and we'll have a good chance of winning games. Its been a while since ive seen that at Everton.
Of course, if anyone has any better options availble going for nothing or under 5m then contact the club.

 

[pfim]

Working hard is part of playing a team sport, if you can't do it then you shouldn't be anywhere near a team sport let alone at this level. I worry that many of our fans seem to see 'working hard' as an attribute when it's not. It's the bare basics of any sport whether it's in the local park or at PL level.

You are right and wrong.

It should be table stakes to get into a premier league side (or any side), but in reality it just isn't.

I also think there is a difference between working hard, and doing what Harrison and McNeil do. It takes a certain amount of fitness and a certain mentality to press at the front and defend responsibly like they do. I don't think it's all that common, to see players like that consistently.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

Might have been his first touch of the game

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

@Zatara not in your world buddy, no way you get to celebrate that.

 

[formerly manx toffee]

3 goals from 18 game from your two wingers is a poor return though.

they are in the team to do lots of defensive work, but they need to improve in front of goal.

I guess that’s one more goal and one more assists !