2025/26 Jack Grealish

[Swartzy]

It’s absolutely transformative mate, look at Newcastle since Hall and Livramento returned, completely different team, both destroyed us last week.

They are a different team with them.

Perfect example

 

[jazzy]

Cost is one consideration and it’s significant to value, it’s the value that justifies the cost in my opinion as opposed to the actual cost. Hypothetically if Jack empowers us to the Champions League then the cost is irrelevent to the value. But cost isn't the only consideration there is also longevity and cohesion.

By cohesion I mean connectedness and how it influences the attacking unit and the lack of variance.

For example practically both Illy and Grealish stand on the ball and try and beat a man. Which is nice and all but it means we are slow or both doing that takes the pace and directness out of our game, it also allows your opposition defence to pick up your striker. Thats a problem.

Thus I don’t think it’s actually that mad, to vary it and have pace and directness on the opposite wing to Illy. We are slowing the game down too much standing on the ball when the rest of the league is going for pace, directness and getting the ball up the pitch and as close to the goal as fast as possible.

We’ve scored 15 goals this season, same as Burnley, less then Leeds and in the bottom four in the league.

For all the talk of creativity etc we’re actually not at all that productive or meaningfully creative.

Thats one aspect, were my uncertainty comes from in signing him permanently, I’ve others.

To be clear, I think he’s a brilliant player, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he is in the long term what we need.

Good analysis, which is why it makes sense to play Jack at 10 , the position that he played at Villa

 

[MACCA75]

It would certainly be a popular deal if we could. I'd expect the likes of Newcastle and Spurs would be circling if we weren't up for paying what City want though.

There is a reason why these clubs didn’t want him. Newcastle just don’t play in a way that Grealish fits in with.

I agree with @Neiler . Sometimes your best player is also your biggest problem. See also Bruno Fernandes at Man Utd.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Jack Grealish explains how Everton and David Moyes have helped him rediscover top Premier League form

From confidence loss to kissing the Everton badge, Jack Grealish has been revitalised by his Toffees loan spell; the forward speaks exclusively to Sky Sports, as PUMA launch their FUTURE 9 boot, about his new lease of life on Merseyside and how belief has been key under David Moyes

www.skysports.com

 

[Zatara]

Disagree to be honest. I’m happy with both Barry and Dibling both I’d back as more then sound investments in the long term. I think part of the problem with our strikers is Illy and Grealish liking to stand on the ball, beat a man, then maybe get a cross in, by which time the game has slowed down, the opposition defense has set up, and as a striker you are trying to get in between two centre half’s or a centre half and a full back in a packed congested box - think about it we see it every game, Barry and Beto. There’s no space, just crosses coming in or second balls.

The only way it’s conceivably feasible in my opinion, is you get two overlapping full backs and allow Illy and Jack to come inside, if the fullbacks then stretch the play by going wide. That then creates the space. Difficulty there is your paying big money for Jack and two full backs.

If I’m also being very honest, I’ve followed Jack closely watching him as a teenager even before his first team debut for Villa as he was underage with Ireland. He’s lost a yard in my opinion to what he was, he very rarely goes outside or to the by line now at pace or those inside inverted runs, like you’d see when he was at Villa. The Jack we have now is different to the one that played for Villa, he’s lost that extra yard of pace in my opinion and he was never that pacy anyway - more quick feet and technique. He's actually become more wise and savvy though, watch him - he never looses possession now, that wasn’t always the case when he was younger.

He’s a brilliant player, I’m just explaining my hesitation, I don’t think it’s actually the slam dunk most seem to or a decision certainly worth scrutiny and I’d also go back to our total goals scored, we aren’t that productive or meaningful creative, we’re in the bottom 4 in the league.

Good analysis, which is why it makes sense to play Jack at 10 , the position that he played at Villa

If Grealish signs then it seems to me that he has to be used at 10. I am dumbstruck that every single game he's at 11.

KDH & Garner as 8's with Grealish at 10 makes perfect sense and then Ndiaye 11 with Dibling 7.

This would be so different to having Grealish 11 and KDH 10 totally slowing the game down.

 

[Blueclouds]

Jack said he loves playing under Moyes. We keep Moyes then we keep Jack. Its important for Jack who his manager is at this point.

 

[Marcus Kendall]

Good analysis, which is why it makes sense to play Jack at 10 , the position that he played at Villa

He didn't play as a number 10 at Villa he's always played mainly as a left wide forward

 

[PeterGet]

Guardian is reporting some comments from Moyes on the 50mil figure for Jack.

Premier League news: Everton want Grealish deal but fear being priced out; Maresca admits to rotational toil

Word from the top-tier press conferences, including a four-match ban for Hannibal Mejbri and Rodri still being ‘a few weeks’ out with City

www.theguardian.com

Sounds like we’re negotiating already… I think he’s worth it for a potential 5 years of service

 

[degsy]

Guardian is reporting some comments from Moyes on the 50mil figure for Jack.

Premier League news: Everton want Grealish deal but fear being priced out; Maresca admits to rotational toil

Word from the top-tier press conferences, including a four-match ban for Hannibal Mejbri and Rodri still being ‘a few weeks’ out with City

www.theguardian.com

Sounds like we’re negotiating already… I think he’s worth it for a potential 5 years of service

He's a decent player now - though i think he needs to come inside more.
Does he have 5 yrs in him though?
Still doing the on field biz at 34+?

" Maybe out of our reach at £50Mill" says Moyes
Half that at most for 3yrs and a 'sensible' wage.

 

[maccavennie]

I think he still has a lot more to show, I get a sense he still hasn't let the handbrake off yet. We're gonna need him to be the match winner on a lot of occasions and be the difference in really tight games (like Tuesday night).

Days like today are where your looking for a match winning performance from Grealish or Ndiaye, your best players really making the difference

 

[Nymzee]

I think he still has a lot more to show, I get a sense he still hasn't let the handbrake off yet. We're gonna need him to be the match winner on a lot of occasions and be the difference in really tight games (like Tuesday night).

Days like today are where your looking for a match winning performance from Grealish or Ndiaye, your best players really making the difference

Get a better striker and a better left-back and Grealish’ game will explode.

 

[maccavennie]

Get a better striker and a better left-back and Grealish’ game will explode.

We might not ever get to see that mate as the speed we do good recruitment we might be better planning for when Grealish has a son and plays for us

 

[Nymzee]

We might not ever get to see that mate as the speed we do good recruitment we might be better planning for when Grealish has a son and plays for us

Young Davey Moyes Grealish

 

[PeterGet]

He's a decent player now - though i think he needs to come inside more.
Does he have 5 yrs in him though?
Still doing the on field biz at 34+?

" Maybe out of our reach at £50Mill" says Moyes
Half that at most for 3yrs and a 'sensible' wage.

It’s tricky… I think he’s worth it..
You make a good point about the wages

 

[edge]

Got a feeling he will get us a pen today.
We are due one