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stevietoffee
Player Valuation: £8m
his distribution is nowhere near good enough for what martinez wants. its a shame because i always thought he was good enough untill i saw john stones then i realised how streets ahead stones is . probably will make a good championship defender
Those saying he doesn't look enough on the ball, very little centre backs are. Jags was never excellent at it, RM came in and made him good at it.
Stones is a much more glamorous version of him. They could make a hell of a duo at the back if they both progress well. I think another loan should be out the window, if he's going to step up, it's got to be now.
I wish the lad the best, he had that shocking injury and has come back strong.
Stones is a much more glamorous version of him. They could make a hell of a duo at the back if they both progress well. I think another loan should be out the window, if he's going to step up, it's got to be now.
I wish the lad the best, he had that shocking injury and has come back strong.
Blue Wiz
Player Valuation: £25m
If he stays I think he will be given the opportunities to show his skill since we need backup players that can do the job when our first choises need a break, are injured or banned. As some have stated earlier, he is a good CD. But is he good enough for the part of PL where we want to be? For the lower ranked teams.. then possibly yes, for a team that want to battle for CL & EL competitions? I'm not so sure, but I haven't seen him much. Currently I would rate him tied 4:th with Alcaraz, but RM most likely rate Alcaraz higher since he brought him along when he joined last summer. Would like for EFC to give him a new 3 year contract and if he doesn't step up when given the chances this season, Selling him next summer. I do hope he step up since both Jags and Distin are getting older. If he can step up we would have 2 great CD for a decade to come in Stones & Duffy.
Hope so , last year must have done him good.
njligernj
Player Valuation: £15m
Hope so obviously. Usually takes defenders a while to really hit their stride and we do have a very high standard at CB. Hard to say. He could easily be good enough to be 2nd/3rd choice at some clubs ... even some Prem clubs ... and still not make it with us. So it's no insult to the lad if he can't quite make it here ... but I hope he can. Might be one of those cases where if he went nuts (in a good way) and did twice as much as everyone else he could make it ... but he might not make it doing "just enough" ... not saying that IS the case ... just what I think might be the case.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
No, because he's not good enough.
Jags, Distin and Stones are all better.
Jags, Distin and Stones are all better.
griffla
Player Valuation: £10m
besic won't be a centre back. I wouldn't tell him to his face but he's a bit of a shortass. Distin and Alcaraz aren't getting any younger either
i'm blue da be dabu die
Player Valuation: £500k
I'd rather have Duffy as a 4th CB than Alcaraz and I don't mind Alcaraz its just I'd rather have a homegrown CB playing for the club and getting a chance over a guy who could be injured for the majority of this season.
TX Bill
Player Valuation: £80m
This.
evertonUSA
Player Valuation: £225k
Amazing how people try to scout his passing ability and project him for the system. Remember, almost nobody thought Jagielka or Distin fit the system, while Naismith and Stones were afterthoughts for last season. Just let it play out.
CahillsCornerFlag
Player Valuation: £70m
If rather have him than Alcaraz as our back up defender. Cheaper and less injury prone for a start, ignoring all else.
AndyZ
Player Valuation: £10m
yes, he "lacks a yard of pace", but that is hardly the deciding factor in a central defender. Just look at Per Mertesacker at Arsenal or Daniel van Buyten at Bayern Munich. Both are hideously slow but manage to do a job in teams with very similar playing styles to our own.
To address your second point, "always looks prone to a mistake", we've hardly seen enough of him recently to say that. That fact is, he had an impressive showing while out on loan last season and deserves a chance now. At the very least, I would give him a chance ahead of Alcaraz at the moment.
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