Is It Really Down To This

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Brennan said:
He's already turned down United.
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Doesn't mean he won't change his mind though.

Personally i think he'll stay here till he retires because he's happy here and thats more important to him than money or winning things, he's getting paid very well to do the job he loves.

Could be wrong but none of us know, but the fact he has already turned down offers from elsewhere doesn't mean he won't accept them in the future.
 

deathbyropeandglass said:
Doesn't mean he won't change his mind though.

Personally i think he'll stay here till he retires because he's happy here and thats more important to him than money or winning things, he's getting paid very well to do the job he loves.

Could be wrong but none of us know, but the fact he has already turned down offers from elsewhere doesn't mean he won't accept them in the future.
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If he wanted a move he would have gone there, that's not the kind of move you turn down if you're even 50/50 about it because you never know if you'll get the chance again.

He won't go down south and as a result i can't see him moving abroad, he's already turned down Munich too.

Obviously anything could happen but i would tell anybody thinking about Baines leaving to not worry about it.
 
Brennan said:
If he wanted a move he would have gone there, that's not the kind of move you turn down if you're even 50/50 about it because you never know if you'll get the chance again.

He won't go down south and as a result i can't see him moving abroad, he's already turned down Munich too.

Obviously anything could happen but i would tell anybody thinking about Baines leaving to not worry about it.
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And of course there's always the option that he gets pushed out the door after being persuaded to give us 1 more season in pursuit of 4th.

I'm with you and don't think he'll go but wouldn't be surprised if he did just because he turned down offers before, maybe he regrets it, who knows. Bet he won't be short of teams wanting him still.
 

A loss against the Champions elect and it's Armageddon.
A loss against the manager who has masterminded more premier league wins than anyone before him and likely anyone ever.
We didn't even play badly, certainly not as poorly as we did at Southampton, Leeds or QPR.

However, we're still well in the mix for a European spot ( most likely Europa), and we've got some of the best players we've had for a long time - our football at times has been fantastic. We're simply not consistent enough, and maybe only an influx of big money and big players can push us there....but, it also brings its problems.....big ego's, increased ticket prices, sterile stadiums, rent-a-crowds etc, you know what I mean...all the very things we despise and mock about Chelsea, City, Utd and the ****e.

Having sat in Old Trafford on Sunday my one overwhelming feeling was " I really hope this doesn't happen to us"....quite simply it wasn't a football match, it wasn't a hostile crowd in a tight ground, it was passionless and almost spineless, nigh on 50% of the 75000 crowd appeared to be corporates, day tripping foreigners or merchandise-grabbing non- entities.....I saw very few football fans and it made me wholly glad with what we have....a team that knows how fantastic a win feels because it knows how **** a defeat feels, fans that are football through and through ( despite the odd scrote only there to cause hassle), an ageing decrepit ground which has no equal in terms of atmosphere on a dark January night under the lights......we have Everton.

Sorry to appear optimistic, but the negativity is just too much at times.
 
Tubey said:
It's amazing how pessimistic everyone can get due to an away loss to Man Utd.
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To be fair, this doesn't have much to do with the utd match for me. I came away from Old Trafford yesterday a tad disappointed but not to the extent of thinking the world is going to end at L4. The facts are the facts, debt, poor commercials, best manager in the country able to leave, old stadium. I just want bigger and better things.

what makes it worse is that i sit in my ivory tower in london listening to spurs, arsenal, chelsea (i know their situation is ridiculous), Utd and RS fans all talk about Europe, new players etc.

I've witnessed the 80's.
 
Carlito said:
If Moyes does go in the summer I wonder if it'll encourage Kenwright to put the club up for sale. He'd surely have to acknowledge that the jig is up, although saying that, I thought the same thing after Kirkby fell through.
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The clubs up for sale mate. That is undeniable. There just aren;t any buyers.
 
Ralphie Boy said:
Years of club management ineptitude may result if we don't qualify for champions league football:

No David Moyes, is that such a bad things as:

Fellini leaves potentially for 30 mill towards new players.

Baines wants champions league football, gone for 20 mill.

New tv money tops up transfer pot.

Bed in some youth, poor season but nucleus of new team.

But lose money as not all season ticket holders will renew (me being one who is already considering retiring to the armchair).

Thoughts?
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Underneath this is a painful truth. Sadly.
 

mpatton said:
The clubs up for sale mate. That is undeniable. There just aren;t any buyers.
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I really don't think it is. They lied about looking for a buyer for years when the Kirkby exclusitivity agreement forbade it, and I haven't seen any evidence to suggest the situation has changed. If anything, the infamous Blue Union meeting has convinced me that the board have no intention of even naming a price anytime soon.
 
Baines isn't going. You just have to say "down boy" and he goes back and hides in his corner.
 
noharmdone said:
Remember the ' failed its safety certificate ' quote.. Does anyone know if there was even the slightest bit of truth in that ?
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It's funny how BK spouts so much nonsense you forget some of his greatest hits over time. Yes in 2007 he said Goodison would "soon" fail and someone else (council member?) said 2013 specifically. I also vaguely recall someone coming on these boards and saying people fail those all the time for lots of (easily fixable) reasons. If the building was about to collapse you don't phrase it as "it will fail its certificate" ... if the building is a pile of rubble what difference would a certificate make either way? Would you blutak the certificate to a pile of bricks and continue selling tickets to a ruin?

I think it was "technically" true (that if we didn't make a few changes we might fail) but they were (obviously) changes which could be made relatively easily (since we didn't fail -- at least permanently ... most businesses routinely fail their first inspections and are given grace periods to make changes).

I know people like to complain about health and safety but they aren't going to condemn a building which is a major part of the city's culture (not to mention a revenue source) for a laugh. It would have to be truly dangerous (and if that were the case BK would be scaremongering based on real provable danger ... not certificates).
 
mpatton said:
To be fair, this doesn't have much to do with the utd match for me. I came away from Old Trafford yesterday a tad disappointed but not to the extent of thinking the world is going to end at L4. The facts are the facts, debt, poor commercials, best manager in the country able to leave, old stadium. I just want bigger and better things.

what makes it worse is that i sit in my ivory tower in london listening to spurs, arsenal, chelsea (i know their situation is ridiculous), Utd and RS fans all talk about Europe, new players etc.

I've witnessed the 80's.
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This.
I think deep down we all saw CL football slip away when we lost points to Swansea, Villa and QPR recently. BHolding our position in 4th place would have been one thing but we won't be catching Spurs or Arsenal now as they have the easier run-ins and have the momentum.
 

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