Interesting article about Kirkby

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Inside Sport: David Conn on the Kirkby Stadium inquiry and the future of Everton | Football | The Guardian

Says that the move to Kirkby would only gain Everton an extra 6 million a year income. Surely not considering they told us it would be a world class sporting arena...

irrespective of the direct financial gain every year; it would mean that everton would become a club attractive to foreign investors.

ask yourself why City were bought and not Everton?

Our fan base is as big.
Our position within both cities is about the same (large local support and some global support - but overshadowed by a local neighbour that has had considerably more success and has a more established brand)
Our squad is much better - anyone wanting to take over our club to challenge for the title would be doing so from a position of relative strength (unlike city)
Our manager is better - indeed one of the best in the world.
Our debts were pretty bad, but then so were man cities.

- the difference is City had a stadium (gifted to them btw from the commonwealth games and the local tax payer - shame Capital of Culture couldn't have done the same for us).

that stadium, with its corporate hospitality and capacity to support a team that plays in the upper echelons of the champions league is what an investor looks for. They dont have to expend any money or time or resources on the stadium issue as its sorted.

this is why we try to move to Kirby - right or wrong.

either we put up with no money, or we move (anything else is hoping for a miracle)
 

The interesting thing in the piece is the argument by the neighbouring councils that the retail development is so big that it will suck trade from their shopping areas. So presumably people will be quite happy to travel 'all that way' for a loaf of bread, but died in the wool Evertonians won't travel all that extra distance to watch the Blues.
 
Oh, and kudos for the article featuring comment from some guy called Keith Nutter :lol:

Nutter described the scheme as "unacceptable and unsustainable", and the design as "poor" for a town centre. "This is big-box retailing in a sea of car parking," he said.

Classic :lol:
 
The interesting thing in the piece is the argument by the neighbouring councils that the retail development is so big that it will suck trade from their shopping areas. So presumably people will be quite happy to travel 'all that way' for a loaf of bread, but died in the wool Evertonians won't travel all that extra distance to watch the Blues.
I bet they wouldn't go get the bread if they had to walk 40 minutes from and to their car, though.
 
The interesting thing in the piece is the argument by the neighbouring councils that the retail development is so big that it will suck trade from their shopping areas. So presumably people will be quite happy to travel 'all that way' for a loaf of bread, but died in the wool Evertonians won't travel all that extra distance to watch the Blues.

But didnt a LCC rep in the enquiry admit it wouldnt hit trade badly?

I'm staying out of it now anyway....just waiting for the decision.
 
The interesting thing in the piece is the argument by the neighbouring councils that the retail development is so big that it will suck trade from their shopping areas. So presumably people will be quite happy to travel 'all that way' for a loaf of bread, but died in the wool Evertonians won't travel all that extra distance to watch the Blues.

Exactly. The whole debate is so riddled with misinformation and spin, I refuse to take sides.
Here's another one:

Goodison, itself in a deprived area with rows of boarded-up terrace houses, will not fetch a fortune.

If that was really the case, the club would be buying up the cheap boarded up housing and redeveloping Goodison. But as we all know, that is not the case.
 

irrespective of the direct financial gain every year; it would mean that everton would become a club attractive to foreign investors.

ask yourself why City were bought and not Everton?

Our fan base is as big.
Our position within both cities is about the same (large local support and some global support - but overshadowed by a local neighbour that has had considerably more success and has a more established brand)
Our squad is much better - anyone wanting to take over our club to challenge for the title would be doing so from a position of relative strength (unlike city)
Our manager is better - indeed one of the best in the world.
Our debts were pretty bad, but then so were man cities.

- the difference is City had a stadium (gifted to them btw from the commonwealth games and the local tax payer - shame Capital of Culture couldn't have done the same for us).

that stadium, with its corporate hospitality and capacity to support a team that plays in the upper echelons of the champions league is what an investor looks for. They dont have to expend any money or time or resources on the stadium issue as its sorted.

this is why we try to move to Kirby - right or wrong.

either we put up with no money, or we move (anything else is hoping for a miracle)

another diffeence may be that one club was for sale & the other one not.
 
another diffeence may be that one club was for sale & the other one not.

More accurately City's Thai owner was desperate to sell quickly in order to remove all his assets from the UK after instead of being granted political asylum in the UK as he had requested, his UK visa was revoked.
This raised the possibility of other countries refusing him admission and his being deported back to Thailand where he faced both jail and having all his assets seized.
Quick sale = cheap sale. Plus the new owners got a club with a new stadium.
 
You know what...




Who cares any more!!

Exactly.

Whatever happens, happens. If we do go, we've got a new home and a un-certain furture (success or not who knows). If we dont, we stay put and wait for Bill to sell up to whoever wants the club (Ken Bates might be interested before he dies haha).


To be fair though....all I want is for the club to be able to spend in the transfer window without strain or hardship. Not a fuucking silly Citeh "we can buy anyone" or Spurs who just buy for buying sake, but just so that Moyes can get hold of someone like Moutinho etc, the one hot-shot, and a few talanted players.

I mentioned on another thread that when we played the [Poor language removed] on Monday Torres and Keane cost more than our entire team. If we had £40mill to spend in one summer, no strings, we'd be a constant top 4 club or at least a team that competes with them to the wire.

That's all I want.
 

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