Innit or Brexit?
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I fear I know what's happened here: our friend Ashtonian has been reading up on the subject and got to the issue of health and safety regulation in the construction industry. Sadly, his brain's so addled with all the electricity and vapour he kept reading 'paving' as 'vaping'.
I'll vote in then mate. Thanks for the advice.
Ashtonian
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Part of it, yea.
magicjuan
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Out. The concept that voting out lets the tories of the leash is bollix. Haven't they been running amok for 6 years already? Workers rights protected by europe? Really? We work longer for less than before in the EU.
Johnson and Cameron share the same ideology, think one is friendlier than the other to us oiks?
Tories are splitting and weak. Brexit makes them vulnerable, Labour seriously need to get their shinola together to create a believable opposition to take advantage of the situation. Stay in and we vindicate and welcome the austerity policies that are economically supported by the EU.
Create a volatile situation and create change.
Vive le revolution. And lizards
Johnson and Cameron share the same ideology, think one is friendlier than the other to us oiks?
Tories are splitting and weak. Brexit makes them vulnerable, Labour seriously need to get their shinola together to create a believable opposition to take advantage of the situation. Stay in and we vindicate and welcome the austerity policies that are economically supported by the EU.
Create a volatile situation and create change.
Vive le revolution. And lizards
Lol, I'm voting in now.
Going to France on Tuesday and have no interest in voting.
However if they strike and get any of my train journeys cancelled I'm defo voting out lol
However if they strike and get any of my train journeys cancelled I'm defo voting out lol
out,but think the vote will be for in.
Dont get this the Tories will do this or that if we are not in the EU,like we cant vote them out,ever?
Unlike the EU which be can do nothing about.
Dont get this the Tories will do this or that if we are not in the EU,like we cant vote them out,ever?
Unlike the EU which be can do nothing about.
Ashtonian
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It's not a personal preference. Not going to affect me.
It's the thousands of job, thousands to million of smokers who won't have access to something to help them. It's classing it worse than tobacco despite the opposite being true simply because they want to make money off it.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
EU referendum: British public wrong about nearly everything, survey shows
According to Ipsos MORI, British people think far more EU citizens live in the UK than actually do
The British public have it wrong on immigrants and wrong on the EU.
According to their research by Ipsos MORI, British people think far more EU citizens live in the UK than actually do, that we pay far more money to the EU budget than is the case, and that we significantly overestimate the amount of benefits paid to EU migrants.
In a survey of 1,000 people, weighted to represent the nation’s demographic profile in terms of age, gender, ethnicity and other factors, respondents claimed that, on average, 15 per cent of the UK population are EU immigrants. That would be 10.5m people. The correct figure is 3.5m. Those who intend to vote Leave in the referendum put the figure at 20 per cent. ‘Remainers’ put the figure at 10 per cent.
One in seven people (15 per cent) believe ‘at least one Euro-myth’, including bans on barmaids showing too much cleavage, and the forcible renaming of Bombay Mix to Mumbai mix. Neither are real. 24 per cent of people believe overly bendy bananas are banned from import to the UK under EU law. (‘Malformed bananas’ are banned from export under an EU regulation.)
84 per cent of people think the UK is in the top three contributors to the EU budget. 23 per cent think it is the single biggest. In fact the UK is in fourth place, behind Germany, which pays 21 per cent, France (16 per cent) and Italy (12 per cent). The UK pays 11 per cent.
But the UK receives less money back than Germany, Italy, Spain and France, a fact not lost on 58 per cent of respondents.
David Cameron’s rebate did much to publicise the issue of child benefit payments to EU migrants, a fact that few people in the UK were even aware of. 14 per cent of people now think that 30 per cent of the UK’s Child Benefit budget is sent to children living overseas. 23 per cent of people think that 13 per cent of it does. The correct figure is 0.3 per cent. It means that almost 49 per cent of the population overestimate the figure by more than 40 times.
Only 5 per cent of people were able to name an MEP representing their area.
The EU spends 6 per cent of its budget on administration. The average guess was 27 per cent. Were this the case, the spend would be £30bn a year, instead of around £6bn.
On the impact of the referendum the general public were similarly misguided. 63 per cent think that Brexit will reduce immigration, an assurance that the Leave camp have consistently failed to give. Only 25 per cent of people think it will reduce living standards.
Professor Anand Menon, Director of the UK in a Changing Europe, who co-authored the study said:
“There are obviously still high levels of ignorance about the EU, which is troubling so close to the referendum. However, it is not so surprising, given the lack of accurate information provided to the public, as well as the mistruths, exaggerations, and scaremongering that have taken place during this campaign. It’s now more imperative than ever that the public can be provided with as much factual information about the EU as possible before they cast their vote”
According to Ipsos MORI, British people think far more EU citizens live in the UK than actually do
The British public have it wrong on immigrants and wrong on the EU.
According to their research by Ipsos MORI, British people think far more EU citizens live in the UK than actually do, that we pay far more money to the EU budget than is the case, and that we significantly overestimate the amount of benefits paid to EU migrants.
In a survey of 1,000 people, weighted to represent the nation’s demographic profile in terms of age, gender, ethnicity and other factors, respondents claimed that, on average, 15 per cent of the UK population are EU immigrants. That would be 10.5m people. The correct figure is 3.5m. Those who intend to vote Leave in the referendum put the figure at 20 per cent. ‘Remainers’ put the figure at 10 per cent.
One in seven people (15 per cent) believe ‘at least one Euro-myth’, including bans on barmaids showing too much cleavage, and the forcible renaming of Bombay Mix to Mumbai mix. Neither are real. 24 per cent of people believe overly bendy bananas are banned from import to the UK under EU law. (‘Malformed bananas’ are banned from export under an EU regulation.)
84 per cent of people think the UK is in the top three contributors to the EU budget. 23 per cent think it is the single biggest. In fact the UK is in fourth place, behind Germany, which pays 21 per cent, France (16 per cent) and Italy (12 per cent). The UK pays 11 per cent.
But the UK receives less money back than Germany, Italy, Spain and France, a fact not lost on 58 per cent of respondents.
David Cameron’s rebate did much to publicise the issue of child benefit payments to EU migrants, a fact that few people in the UK were even aware of. 14 per cent of people now think that 30 per cent of the UK’s Child Benefit budget is sent to children living overseas. 23 per cent of people think that 13 per cent of it does. The correct figure is 0.3 per cent. It means that almost 49 per cent of the population overestimate the figure by more than 40 times.
Only 5 per cent of people were able to name an MEP representing their area.
The EU spends 6 per cent of its budget on administration. The average guess was 27 per cent. Were this the case, the spend would be £30bn a year, instead of around £6bn.
On the impact of the referendum the general public were similarly misguided. 63 per cent think that Brexit will reduce immigration, an assurance that the Leave camp have consistently failed to give. Only 25 per cent of people think it will reduce living standards.
Professor Anand Menon, Director of the UK in a Changing Europe, who co-authored the study said:
“There are obviously still high levels of ignorance about the EU, which is troubling so close to the referendum. However, it is not so surprising, given the lack of accurate information provided to the public, as well as the mistruths, exaggerations, and scaremongering that have taken place during this campaign. It’s now more imperative than ever that the public can be provided with as much factual information about the EU as possible before they cast their vote”
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
It'll be too late by then. The NHS (and the Land Registry, ffs) will have gone the way of the Post Office, all the utilities and British Rail and it will be all but impossible to claw back.
GwladysBlue
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In.
Look at what European funding has done for Liverpool as a city.
Ask yourself this, would a Tory government be providing this much funding?
Look at what European funding has done for Liverpool as a city.
Ask yourself this, would a Tory government be providing this much funding?
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
That's more to do with the opposing tide of neoliberalism rolling out at the same time. What about holiday pay? Sick pay? Maternity leave? Paternity leave? Take a look at the American model of workers' rights..... It's coming.
If you can't see the difference between Cameron and Boris, I fear for you. Cameron has always been bang on with stuff like same-sex marriage, gay rights etc and has never spewed racist, homophobic or anti-NHS stuff like Boris has.
The one positive in all this. The Right usually find a way of coming out on top, though, even if they have to eat their own young. Don't count your chickens.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
As Jayne Casey said on her FB page yesterday:
Hey Liverpool do you remember when the UK goverment decided to ''manage Liverpool's decline'' and The European Union stepped in and saved our beloved city from destruction? Just that really : )) xx
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