2025/26 Iliman Ndiaye

Garner isn't much of a sellable asset. You genuinely think teams are going to come to offer £50m for him when he rarely scores or assists?

He's a very tidy player who stands out in a truly awful Everton side.

Anderson of Forest is three times the player.
Interesting. So you use Anderson as an example of a player who is three times as good as Garner and then use Garners goals and assists to crap on him despite Garner having more goals and assists in the league combined this season.

Make it make sense.
 
Interesting. So you use Anderson as an example of a player who is three times as good as Garner and then use Garners goals and assists to crap on him despite Garner having more goals and assists in the league combined this season.

Make it make sense.
I thought Anderson has three goals in the league this season (he does). And in general he is far, far more involved in the final third than Garner. Even the most biased of Blues would agree with that. He's much more of an all-rounder, whereas Garner is a hard-working number six who occasionally forays forwards to little success.

As previously mentioned, for a club like Everton, Garner is a great player. If Gueye, McNeil, Tarkowski, Keane, the full backs and strikers were replaced, I'm sure Garner would look even better.
 
I thought Anderson has three goals in the league this season (he does). And in general he is far, far more involved in the final third than Garner. Even the most biased of Blues would agree with that. He's much more of an all-rounder, whereas Garner is a hard-working number six who occasionally forays forwards to little success.

As previously mentioned, for a club like Everton, Garner is a great player. If Gueye, McNeil, Tarkowski, Keane, the full backs and strikers were replaced, I'm sure Garner would look even better.
He has 3 goals and 2 assists = 5.

Garner has 2 goals and 6 assists = 8.

Garner has more in the league in total than Anderson has in all comps (7) this season.

Also, Garner outshone him in both games we played against Forest this season.
 
He has 3 goals and 2 assists = 5.

Garner has 2 goals and 6 assists = 8.

Garner has more in the league in total than Anderson has in all comps (7) this season.
The way assists are handed out nowadays I don't pay attention to them. Let's be honest, unless it's a killer pass (like Garner's earlier on in the season) or a tidy layoff or great cross, they really shouldn't count as assists.
 
The way assists are handed out nowadays I don't pay attention to them. Let's be honest, unless it's a killer pass (like Garner's earlier on in the season) or a tidy layoff or great cross, they really shouldn't count as assists.

There's no point debating if you want to do it in bad faith. You originally said that Garner isn't a sellable asset because he barely scores goals or assists and now you're saying you don't pay attention to assists. Try to be consistent if you want to be taken seriously.
 
There's no point debating if you want to do it in bad faith. You originally said that Garner isn't a sellable asset because he barely scores goals or assists and now you're saying you don't pay attention to assists. Try to be consistent if you want to be taken seriously.
Elliot Anderson > James Garner by a lot.

How about that instead?

And I'll stick to my assertion that no 'big' club will even entertain the idea of coming in for him this summer.

This isn't a huge criticism of Garner. Everton are crap and he's one of our standout players. Fair play to him.
 
Elliot Anderson > James Garner by a lot.

How about that instead?

And I'll stick to my assertion that no 'big' club will even entertain the idea of coming in for him this summer.

This isn't a huge criticism of Garner. Everton are crap and he's one of our standout players. Fair play to him.
Forest are crap and Anderson is one of their standout players.

I agree that nobody will come in for Garner this summer. He confirmed that when he signed a contract earlier this year. He doesn't sign that and they would have.

Either way, Garner is as much a sellable asset as Ndiaye is.
 
Forest are crap and Anderson is one of their standout players.

I agree that nobody will come in for Garner this summer. He confirmed that when he signed a contract earlier this year. He doesn't sign that and they would have.

Either way, Garner is as much a sellable asset as Ndiaye is.
This is the same Nottingham Forest that have a genuine chance of playing in the Champions League next season, by the way.

You'd expect Villa to beat them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled it off.

They can't be all that bad.
 
This is the same Nottingham Forest that have a genuine chance of playing in the Champions League next season, by the way.

You'd expect Villa to beat them, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled it off.

They can't be all that bad.
We shouldn't be using Europe as a benchmark. Spurs finished 4th in the Champions League table. They are complete rubbish. It's quite clear that even the worst Prem teams are better than the majority of Europe because of the immense financial disparity.
 
We shouldn't be using Europe as a benchmark. Spurs finished 4th in the Champions League table. They are complete rubbish.
They're obviously not rubbish; they've just had the most horrific list of injuries for over two consecutive years. I guarantee if they stay up, they get 25+ points more next season and obviously finish above Everton.

Anyway, this is about Ndiaye. Hopefully we keep him (and Garner) and build around them, as they'd flourish with better quality around them. 👍🏻
 
He has 3 goals and 2 assists = 5.

Garner has 2 goals and 6 assists = 8.

Garner has more in the league in total than Anderson has in all comps (7) this season.

Also, Garner outshone him in both games we played against Forest this season.
I still think Anderson is the better player though. Garner is playing in a better team. I like Garner but Anderson is braver on the ball and much progressive in his passing. Which is why he'll start for England. I actually think Anderson is a better play than Rice who is Jordan Henderson with Ronaldo's PR team.
 
Greedy. Nowhere near good enough to be as greedy as that. Cost us 2 points and probably Europe. Don’t come crying in the media about how you want European football in the summer after you’ve done that.
 

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