2018/19 Idrissa Gueye

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Lelouch said:
This is the problem, You're panicking because you can't think of a replacement when there is hundreds out there you've never heard of and you're only thinking of the ones we can't afford.
I'm not saying Gueye's replacement would be an exact replica because he won't but he might offer something different to Gueye while also being a ball winning midfielder that pushes us forward.
Because we sign good players and elite teams want our players, It doesn't matter if Moshiri is at the club or Bill Gates is if we can't offer good players titles/european football.
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You're right a move might work out for us however based of past experiences we never replaced either of Lukaku or Stones effectively well enough and those were for much larger fees than what we'll be getting for Gueye.

All in all I think we'll be worse off in midfield losing him than what we'll gain from his sale - Its bad business.

If I was Silva/the club I give him a pay rise and the captain's armband and tell him unless PSG offer £50 million+ he's staying put as he's central to our plans.

Put the ball in PSG's court then if he does go atleast we have the funds to go out and bid for a genuine top quality replacement.
 

Saint Domingo said:
No mate haven’t you heard? He’s the only midfielder in the world who can play defensive midfield for us. The only one. If anyone else tries it we’ll be beaten 6-2 every game.
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Don't think anyone is saying that. But he was key to how Silva played last season. So we will have to adapt.

So that may take time. We had a good, settled team by the end of last season so to have a key player leave is going to mean changes. If we tried to play like he was still there (as we did in games like Spurs at home) then it won't be pretty, barring a replacement who plays in exactly the same way (and I watch enough footy to know they don't grow on trees).
 
Saint Domingo said:
Or we just buy another defensive midfielder who is actually good on the ball, keep possession better meaning we have less defending to do, actually have a settled defence, and have a settled forward line who know how to press like Silva wants and maybe we can defend as a team rather than what we used to do which was 9 outfield players putting in zero effort and Gueye running around throwing tackles about half of which resulted from his own miscontrol or bad pass.
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Gana is good on the ball. It's nonsense that he isn't.
 

BlueToff said:
Gana is good on the ball. It's nonsense that he isn't.
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If you had to bet your mortgage on an Everton player taking a pass from our centrebacks and keeping the ball under pressure from opposition midfielders before finding a pass to a blue shirt he wouldn’t be anywhere near the top of the list of players I would choose.

Gomes, Bernard, Digne, Baines, Siggurdson, Davies, Delph, Schneiderlin, Lookman, I’d all trust to retain the ball more than Gueye. So he’d definitely not be in the top 5 and what I’ve described is literally part of his job. If he’s not even near the top for this at Everton then he’s not anywhere near the level we need to push the top 6.

He’s very good at tackling yes, but every other component of being a top midfielder he is average at in my eyes.
 
Saint Domingo said:
If you had to bet your mortgage on an Everton player taking a pass from our centrebacks and keeping the ball under pressure from opposition midfielders before finding a pass to a blue shirt he wouldn’t be anywhere near the top of the list of players I would choose.

Gomes, Bernard, Digne, Baines, Siggurdson, Davies, Delph, Schneiderlin, Lookman, I’d all trust to retain the ball more than Gueye. So he’d definitely not be in the top 5 and what I’ve described is literally part of his job. If he’s not even near the top for this at Everton then he’s not anywhere near the level we need to push the top 6.

He’s very good at tackling yes, but every other component of being a top midfielder he is average at in my eyes.
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Well he did exactly what you said he can't quite often in the last six months of the season. In fact, he was our most accurate forward passer during that time as well.

He's no Pirlo but it's a critique that doesn't stand up as he's improved his all round game.

Look, if he goes, he goes. Not the end of the world. But we're selling a very good player and it could set us back at a time when we seem really close to being able to achieve something. I'd back the management to get another player in, but I'd also wager it to take a fair bit of time to adapt.
 

BlueToff said:
Not in the last six months he wasn't. He really stepped it up, really improved. Because a player doesn't just stop being able to play at 29.
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Yes the last 6 months have been best of his career from what I've seen, strange it coincided with psg interest. Makes me think he's been holding something back or didn't believe in himself
 
mightymoyes said:
Yes the last 6 months have been best of his career from what I've seen, strange it coincided with psg interest. Makes me think he's been holding something back or didn't believe in himself
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People have forgotten his complete average form for parts of 16/17, nearly all of 17/18 and bits of last season. All washed away with a few months of top form once he knew he could get a move to PSG. Good player but not consistent enough to be a top player. I’d wager if we don’t sel him he’ll just revert back to his previous March form.
 
mightymoyes said:
Yes the last 6 months have been best of his career from what I've seen, strange it coincided with psg interest. Makes me think he's been holding something back or didn't believe in himself
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Personally think his first season here was better. Also think it was Silva actually utilizing him differently that got him going more again last season. He actually had the license to pick his spots and impact the game further up the field
 

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