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As an Everton fan who is an American and has been extensively been following the blues for only 4 years. Do these painful times last a long or a short time?
 

It depends how fast the youngsters blood in and how fast Moyes elects to play them. It is getting apparent to everyone Neville, Heitinger and Bily should get cameo roles. Coleman should move back to his normal position and hope Donovan is felling a bit frisky to help us out in the new year. It still means we are missing a true goalscorer when we find that gem we will good to go.
 
As an Everton fan who is an American and has been extensively been following the blues for only 4 years. Do these painful times last a long or a short time?

You should be grateful that this is the worst you've seen. The 90's were so bad for my dad that he couldn't watch the games any more, he got stressed to ****. Still hasn't been the same about them ever since.

This is a poor run admittedly, the worse one for a long time but we'll get out of it. Don't pay much attention to those around here saying we're going to get relegated, we'll finish mid table or thereabouts.
 

It was worse in the 90's.

To answer your question, hopefully not long..

This!
i have faith in Moyes and the players he's bringing through - they just need a chance. We know the kids will play their arses off if allowed game time as they have a point to prove and want to play for the first xi all the time!
Look at James Vaughan, when fit he ran for everything and went for every ball, this is probably one of the reasons he was so injury prone - always putting his body on the line. i wish we'd kept him!
 
It lasts a lifetime mate, we were so gash in the 90's that it didn't bother me in the slightest that I would be giving up going when I emigrated, I feel a bit like that now tbh as we (apart from 96) haven't won anything since, and getting into a CL Qual is probably the biggest achievement, more so than reaching a cup final.
 
As an Everton fan who is an American and has been extensively been following the blues for only 4 years. Do these painful times last a long or a short time?

I really feel sorry for the new fans. Us old codgers have seen the team win loads of trophies when we were the best team around by far. We can hang on to those memories as we go through the bad times. I do fear though that without some mega investment or all the other billionaires walking away from the game, mid table is as good as it gets......
 
I really feel sorry for the new fans. Us old codgers have seen the team win loads of trophies when we were the best team around by far. We can hang on to those memories as we go through the bad times. I do fear though that without some mega investment or all the other billionaires walking away from the game, mid table is as good as it gets......

This, us old buggers can hang on to the days when we were winning not just here but in the league as well. when Andy Gray used to try and headbut the crossbar, and peter Reid was trying to cripple anyone at all. but we won! happy times.
Dont panic the bad will pass
 

This, us old buggers can hang on to the days when we were winning not just here but in the league as well. when Andy Gray used to try and headbut the crossbar, and peter Reid was trying to cripple anyone at all. but we won! happy times.
Dont panic the bad will pass

So were we a team of yard dogs then mate ?

Peter Reid...
He was voted as the PFA Players' Player of the Year in 1985 and came fourth in the World Soccer Player of the Year award, behind Michel Platini, Preben Elkjær and Diego Maradona.

sounds just like the player you describe.
 
This!
i have faith in Moyes and the players he's bringing through - they just need a chance. We know the kids will play their arses off if allowed game time as they have a point to prove and want to play for the first xi all the time!
Look at James Vaughan, when fit he ran for everything and went for every ball, this is probably one of the reasons he was so injury prone - always putting his body on the line. i wish we'd kept him!

^^^ This ^^^
We were awful in the 90's and most of the players were complete gash. We're going through a bad run at the mo, but we have quality in the squad which, given the chance, will come good.
 
we were absolutly s***e awful in the early 80's too, much worse than the 90's, if it was'nt for a god awful back pass at oxford, we would of went down that season, inchy getting on to that gave everyone a lift, and it all started to click
 
I started going in 1963 I've seen some great times, some great teams and some great players, but the one truth with Everton is they alwas let you down in the end. Wouldn't swap them for the world though.
 
I started going in 1963 I've seen some great times, some great teams and some great players, but the one truth with Everton is they alwas let you down in the end. Wouldn't swap them for the world though.

1966 for me at six years old and oh what a year it was. I loved every minute of it. I'm not as closely connected as I once was eating meat pies at Goodison and watching Catterick's lads then Binghams but it is still gut wrenching to see them lose.
 

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