head injuries

blue4eva77 · April 26, 2015

Why was Oscar allowed to continue today? Under the protocols and rules, he shouldn't of been allowed.

It was clear that Oscar was 'out' of it moments after the challenge by the keeper. Under the current protocols, he should of been taken off.

LinekersLegs · April 26, 2015

It's ridiculous, sadly the new rules that they established at the start of the season have made no difference at all.

blue4eva77 · April 26, 2015

LinekersLegs said:
It's ridiculous, sadly the new rules that they established at the start of the season have made no difference at all.

Not only are there protocols in place but it's another Chelsea player and surely there was flashes of Cech going through their minds as he lay there.

LinekersLegs · April 26, 2015

blue4eva77 said:
Not only are there protocols in place but it's another Chelsea player and surely there was flashes of Cech going through their minds as he lay there.

Courtois was knocked out earlier in the season as well and they kept him on them as well, took until he had blood coming from his ear before they actually took him off and he went to hospital

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/29506414

Not sure how the rules need to be adapted - current tunnel doctor given full responsibility for the decision or temp subs allowed whilst the player is assessed being two options - but they clearly need to be as otherwise someone is going to end up seriously hurt if they haven't already been.

We're gulity of it too, no way should Lukaku have been allowed to play on after he was knocked out scoring that first header for us last season.

LinekersLegs · April 27, 2015

http://m.101greatgoals.com/blog/osc...ina-clash-classic-concussion-symptom-picture/

Oscar came off much the worse, and suffered concussion – though this was not immediately detected by the Chelsea medical staff, and he allowed to play on for another 25 minutes.

It was only at half-time that the severity of Oscar’s condition was realized, and he was taken to hospital, reportedly no longer aware of his surroundings or where he was.

And the worst thing about it is, the concussion should have been immediately clear to the medical team, as Oscar displayed a scary ‘fencing response’ straight after the collision, which is a classic concussion sign.

Oscar held up his forearms in a peculiar, awkward-looking position for several seconds, before lying back down again, as is typical with a fencing response.

Edit
More on the "fencing response" for those interested

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fencing_response

ilikecheese · April 27, 2015

Still in the dark ages here.

If their medical staff didn't detect it, then they need to look into a better doctor.

McBain · April 27, 2015

ilikecheese said:
Still in the dark ages here.

If their medical staff didn't detect it, then they need to look into a better doctor.

No Way Jose.

The Chelsea Doc is a hottie.

Rook · April 27, 2015

Twellman suggested if an impartial doctor determines if its a concussion then both teams get a free sub. I think you also have to go a step further and hold the player out for another game for recovery and so squads don't find a way to abuse it.

Tubey · April 27, 2015

The rule isn't the problem - it's the application of it. The referees are an absolute joke and fail over and over again to apply even the most fundamental laws of the game to what they HAVE to have seen with their own eyes.

They all need sacking.

blue4eva77 · April 27, 2015

Tubey said:
The rule isn't the problem - it's the application of it. The referees are an absolute joke and fail over and over again to apply even the most fundamental laws of the game to what they HAVE to have seen with their own eyes.

They all need sacking.

But the game was stopped and Chelsea doctors came onto the field to assist Oscar. Oscars physical actions moments after the collision were classic concussion symptoms and how he was allowed to play on and get the all clear from Chelsea specialists is baffling.

Any news on him anyway?

Tubey · April 27, 2015

blue4eva77 said:
But the game was stopped and Chelsea doctors came onto the field to assist Oscar. Oscars physical actions moments after the collision were classic concussion symptoms and how he was allowed to play on and get the all clear from Chelsea specialists is baffling.

Any news on him anyway?

If the referee was competent, the decision is taken away from everyone else and the player is removed from the game.

He has the power to demand the removal of the player for injury and he has eyeballs in his head so he saw what everyone else did.

The Chelsea doctors are in a position of bias as they are employed to keep players fit. The decision shouldn't be in their hands.

Kiwi · April 27, 2015

Tubey said:
If the referee was competent, the decision is taken away from everyone else and the player is removed from the game.

He has the power to demand the removal of the player for injury and he has eyeballs in his head so he saw what everyone else did.

The Chelsea doctors are in a position of bias as they are employed to keep players fit. The decision shouldn't be in their hands.

Perhaps the answer needs to be that the referees are given the basic concussion training and they make the final call as to whether the player should be allowed to continue.
That when combined with an extra sub for concussion related injuries and we might start seeing the right decisions being made.

blue4eva77 · April 27, 2015

Tubey said:
If the referee was competent, the decision is taken away from everyone else and the player is removed from the game.

He has the power to demand the removal of the player for injury and he has eyeballs in his head so he saw what everyone else did.

The Chelsea doctors are in a position of bias as they are employed to keep players fit. The decision shouldn't be in their hands.

So it should be the referee who demands a player is unfit to continue and not the players very own medical staff ?

degsy · April 29, 2015

Rook said:
Twellman suggested if an impartial doctor determines if its a concussion then both teams get a free sub. I think you also have to go a step further and hold the player out for another game for recovery and so squads don't find a way to abuse it.

Automatic 3 week stand down in Rugby down under