Head Injuries

[Gerbs]

So back here in the states concussions treatment has been a huge deal. There are scores of old American Football players that are suffering from injuries sustained during their career. The old "Bell rung" adage is being thrown out the window. I don't sense the same level of concern elsewhere around the world as football and "American football" put two different tolls on a body.

But I guess to me it is kind of alarming the disregard for head injuries I saw during the world cup as several, obviously very intelligent, doctors allowed their players to go into the game with obvious concussions and I don't see much press about the negligence involved.

Is there anything being said in England about these issues and what are your guy's opinions of allowing a footballer back in after an obvious concussion.

 

[RaleighBlue]

Also speaking as an American:

My belief is that no athlete should ever be allowed back into the field of play after a concussion. Maybe boxers, because otherwise, what the hell is the point, but I'm not a fan of watching people shorten their lives for my own amusement.

I was unhappy when Romelu seemed to be knocked out against West Ham and stayed on the pitch. It was ridiculous that Lloris was not taken out against us at Goodison. And the fact that Kramer wasn't immediately removed is sickening knowing that he doesn't even have memory of continuing to play.

I honestly would be in favor of a special rule that allows substitutions outside of the normal 3 if a concussion is diagnosed by a federation approved neutral pitchside doctor.

Concussions are no joke, and the insane risk that players and coaches undertake when allowing people to play on in that condition should simply be removed from their hands.

 

[marty mcfly]

It's not the same.

American footballers suffer multiple concussions and use their head to hit and block their opponents on every play.

 

[RaleighBlue]

It's not the same.

American footballers suffer multiple concussions and use their head to hit and block their opponents on every play.

Heading a football is also not exactly the best thing to do with a concussion.

And there is always the risk of a stray elbow, or a collision, or falling on your head.

If you get a concussion you need to go lie down and rest until fully healed, not go play top level sport.

 

[Jacko93]

Also speaking as an American:

My belief is that no athlete should ever be allowed back into the field of play after a concussion. Maybe boxers, because otherwise, what the hell is the point, but I'm not a fan of watching people shorten their lives for my own amusement.

I was unhappy when Romelu seemed to be knocked out against West Ham and stayed on the pitch. It was ridiculous that Lloris was not taken out against us at Goodison. And the fact that Kramer wasn't immediately removed is sickening knowing that he doesn't even have memory of continuing to play.

I honestly would be in favor of a special rule that allows substitutions outside of the normal 3 if a concussion is diagnosed by a federation approved neutral pitchside doctor.

Concussions are no joke, and the insane risk that players and coaches undertake when allowing people to play on in that condition should simply be removed from their hands.

For some reason, while it is perfectly reasonable, it seemed for a short period, that this was the most American thing I have heard in a long time (except for anything @usasoccerguy says of course)

 

[RaleighBlue]

For some reason, while it is perfectly reasonable, it seemed for a short period, that this was the most American thing I have heard in a long time (except for anything @usasoccerguy says of course)

I wish I had one of @Garrick 's America gifs to assist in this feeling.

 

[Jacko93]

It's not the same.

American footballers suffer multiple concussions and use their head to hit and block their opponents on every play.

The issue here is not necessarily the first concussion, it is the risk of a second. A second concussion, creating an injury on an injury has a hugely increased risk of serious or fatal consequences. It is nigh on impossible to stop the risk of a concussion, but you can certainly put in measures to take away the risk of two of them.

Whatever measures they can put in place to prevent serious head injury, within reason, then I'd fully support it.

 

[Garrick]

I wish I had one of @Garrick 's America gifs to assist in this feeling.

You rang?

 

[mezzrow]

I wish I had one of @Garrick 's America gifs to assist in this feeling.

I'm on it.

 

[marty mcfly]

Heading a football is also not exactly the best thing to do with a concussion.

And there is always the risk of a stray elbow, or a collision, or falling on your head.

If you get a concussion you need to go lie down and rest until fully healed, not go play top level sport.

The issue here is not necessarily the first concussion, it is the risk of a second. A second concussion, creating an injury on an injury has a hugely increased risk of serious or fatal consequences. It is nigh on impossible to stop the risk of a concussion, but you can certainly put in measures to take away the risk of two of them.

Whatever measures they can put in place to prevent serious head injury, within reason, then I'd fully support it.

Yea you both make good points.

 

[EvertonNJ]

Taylor Twellman has been doing a great job of letting his feelings known considering the issues he had with concussions. Kramer should have never been allowed to keep playing on Sunday.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

What amuses me the most is that the WWE, a fake sport, has very stern concussion testing and a wrestler has to pass a litany of tests after having one before he or she is allowed to get back in the ring.

In football, a real sport, no one seems to give a crap, especially FIFA.

Just interesting and somewhat amusing to me that it's the wrestling company who are taking the issue more seriously, when what they do is basically performance art

@orchard has heard my opinions on this subject adnauseum

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

And if anyone needs an example as to why things should be done for repeated head injuries, may I simply say two words. Chris, Benoit

 

[teppic]

And if anyone needs an example as to why things should be done for repeated head injuries, may I simply say two words. Chris, Benoit

Let 'em get on with it.

 

[DanEFC92]

the Mascherano incident was ridiculously stupid. He collapsed and they let him straight back on.