Has Fellaini really got a £22m buyout clause in his contract ?

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Essex Blue said:
And yet there was no interest in him at all before then, which is why he signed a new contract with Everton.

As if Fellaini is only being played in a more advanced role because of a lack of people who can partner Jelavic. He's being played there because he is very effective in that position, there have been plenty of opportunities for Fellaini to drop back, but Moyes has in the main chosen not to do so.

The massive hype and confidence in realising a fee of circa 25million has only come about since he has been deployed in a more advanced position. Anyone buying him as a central midfielder is in for a shock, because he is useless at tracking runners.
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You're just plucking that sentence from out of thin air. He's been heavily linked with Chelsea for three years; his dad famously spouted off about it repeatedly.

You're kneejerking, basically. You know what this reminds me of? Steve Watson. He was a full back, but he played up front for us because needs must. He scored a hat trick once as well. People seriously talked about him as a long term solution up front.

Obviously, he wasn't, but this is what is happening with Fellaini now. Goals get you noticed, but it doesn't mean he's a natural striker all of a sudden, or even a very good one.

And he is playing up there as a direct result of being a square peg in a round hole. He was used up there initially alongside Cahill a few years back when we had nobody, did a half decent job, but was moved back to midfield ASAP and excelled.

He has literally only been spoken of as a striker properly since his performance against Man Utd. All of the plaudits have been because he's a world class midfielder.
 
Essex Blue said:
And yet there was no interest in him at all before then, which is why he signed a new contract with Everton.

As if Fellaini is only being played in a more advanced role because of a lack of people who can partner Jelavic. He's being played there because he is very effective in that position, there have been plenty of opportunities for Fellaini to drop back, but Moyes has in the main chosen not to do so.

The massive hype and confidence in realising a fee of circa 25million has only come about since he has been deployed in a more advanced position. Anyone buying him as a central midfielder is in for a shock, because he is useless at tracking runners.
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Sorry, missed this - where on Earth is that little nugget of info coming from? Complete nonsense!

http://theexecutionersbong.wordpres...i-the-top-flights-most-aggressive-midfielder/

Fellaini’s athleticism is there for all to see; he is in the top 1% of midfielders in terms of energy and distance covered during matches. He has the 4th highest average distance run per game in the top flight, clocking up a whopping 6.65 miles per match.
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As shown below, he makes a tackle every 30minutes which is the most of any midfielder at the club. Fellaini is very much the club’s number one presser; the curly haired general is ranked 6th highest central midfielder for tackles in the league (63)
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Bizarre statement to make...
 

Fellaini is a central midfielder, who's control, skill and physical presence allow him to be a danger playing as a 2nd striker, but he can dominate when he plays deeper as we have all seen in the past.
 
Tubey said:
You're just plucking that sentence from out of thin air. He's been heavily linked with Chelsea for three years; his dad famously spouted off about it repeatedly.

You're kneejerking, basically. You know what this reminds me of? Steve Watson. He was a full back, but he played up front for us because needs must. He scored a hat trick once as well. People seriously talked about him as a long term solution up front.

Obviously, he wasn't, but this is what is happening with Fellaini now. Goals get you noticed, but it doesn't mean he's a natural striker all of a sudden, or even a very good one.

And he is playing up there as a direct result of being a square peg in a round hole. He was used up there initially alongside Cahill a few years back when we had nobody, did a half decent job, but was moved back to midfield ASAP and excelled.

He has literally only been spoken of as a striker properly since his performance against Man Utd. All of the plaudits have been because he's a world class midfielder.
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His contract was running out and nobody bid for him, I think that is a pretty good sign that nobody was interested in him. And yet, just over 12 months later, once he has signed a new contract and added an extra 15million to his valuation, we suddenly have REAL interest in him. Now I don't know about you, but I think that has something to do with his improved performances in a more advanced position.

It's also why I think he is only worth 20 - 22 million. He isn't a top striker like Rooney and Van Persie (who both went for less than 30 million), and he's a million miles away from being a Fabregas or a Modric. He is worth about 20million, we paid a premium for how young he was when we signed him.

Nobody was arsed about him when he spent the majority of time in central midfield. He had a few boss performances in than position, and a plethora of bad ones.
 
LTblue said:
Fellaini is a central midfielder, who's control, skill and physical presence allow him to be a danger playing as a 2nd striker, but he can dominate when he plays deeper as we have all seen in the past.
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I've seen him have excellent games playing in front of a defensive midfielder and behind an attacking one and have equally excellent games in front of a midfield two.

I personally think he's consistently better in the latter position then the former but it's close.

What I have never seen him excell at is playing as the deepest midfielder of the central three. It's just not his position.
 
Tubey said:
Sorry, missed this - where on Earth is that little nugget of info coming from? Complete nonsense!
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He's destructive (as in he's excellent at breaking up play and winning the balls), what he's not is defensive (which is a positioning thing).

Gibson is a much less destructive player then Fellaini but a much more defensive one. Fellaini doesn't tract runners and restrict space the way gibson does because he doesn't hold a deep position and force the opposition to play around him but charges around looking to win the ball high up, which when it works means we get the ball in a great position and when it doesn't means we get exposed by runners.
 

if Felliani goes for £22 million Kenwright can go **** right off how come its only liverpool, spurs etc. who get top dollar for their best players? we got lucky with lescott Felliani shouldnt go for less than £30 mil
 
Tubey said:
Sorry, missed this - where on Earth is that little nugget of info coming from? Complete nonsense!

http://theexecutionersbong.wordpres...i-the-top-flights-most-aggressive-midfielder/

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Bizarre statement to make...
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It isn't bizarre at all if you actually know what you are talking about. None of the above in any way documents Fellaini's inability to track runners. It's like presenting a statistic that documents a person's weight when you are discussing how bad their breath smells. The above statistics have absolutely no bearing on Fellaini's inability to track runners.

I'm not the only one who is aware of it, Joe Royle was making similar comments last night, and anyone who isn't completely blinded by Fellaini's fabulous perm will also be able to see it, including Moyes.
 
Essex Blue said:
It isn't bizarre at all if you actually know what you are talking about. None of the above in any way documents Fellaini's inability to track runners. It's like presenting a statistic that documents a person's weight when you are discussing how bad their breath smells. The above statistics have absolutely no bearing on Fellaini's inability to track runners.

I'm not the only one who is aware of it, Joe Royle was making similar comments last night, and anyone who isn't completely blinded by Fellaini's fabulous perm will also be able to see it, including Moyes.
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I'm with you on this one. Being a good defensive midfielder is not the same as being a good tackler, which Fellaini is.
 
Essex Blue said:
His contract was running out and nobody bid for him, I think that is a pretty good sign that nobody was interested in him.
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Sorry, had to stop reading there.

I'm not meaning to condescend, but that sentence is horsesh*t of the highest order and I just can't be arsed responding to nonsense today.
 
Artetafan said:
He's destructive (as in he's excellent at breaking up play and winning the balls), what he's not is defensive (which is a positioning thing).

Gibson is a much less destructive player then Fellaini but a much more defensive one. Fellaini doesn't tract runners and restrict space the way gibson does because he doesn't hold a deep position and force the opposition to play around him but charges around looking to win the ball high up, which when it works means we get the ball in a great position and when it doesn't means we get exposed by runners.
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Ahh, well that's better explained. Yes, he's a more pro-active player in that he chases the man in possession, but he has one of the best interception percentages in the league when played in a deeper role.

Saying he "can't" track a runner is simply incorrect though. He wouldn't have such a high interception and tackling percentage if all he did was run around like a headless chicken. His defensive positioning is fine and his workrate is exceptional.

To add; http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/8466054.stm
 

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