H. Clinton

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SerenityNigh said:
Don't you have a State Fair?

If not, I'm sure @RAFUH can help you with the goods.
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No doubt. @RAFUH puts the butter in buttercup, as far I'm concerned.

Here's how the Clintons are just like us. I know my wedding looked just like this.

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I know I got 600 large for a no show job for a major network when I was just getting traction in my career. "Hillary - she's just like you..."

Riiiight. Just because plenty of money and a scandal a day (ah, the 90's) sounds good compared to what we have right now, doesn't mean it's what America wants or needs. The press will not cover for Hill like they have for Obama. I would still give better than even money she doesn't make it to the post as the Democratic nominee. All she has is money, name recognition, and the strength of omerta.

Omerta will crack under pressure. There's a large space to her left that will feel the need to protect what they have built under this administration, and there's too much Arkansas in the Clintons for them to ever get the trust of the hard left end of the party.

We will see Lizzie Warren emerge at some point. The Obama administration will help this as they see fit.
 
mezzrow said:
No doubt. @RAFUH puts the butter in buttercup, as far I'm concerned.

Here's how the Clintons are just like us. I know my wedding looked just like this.

clintonwedding1.jpg


I know I got 600 large for a no show job for a major network when I was just getting traction in my career. "Hillary - she's just like you..."

Riiiight. Just because plenty of money and a scandal a day (ah, the 90's) sounds good compared to what we have right now, doesn't mean it's what America wants or needs. The press will not cover for Hill like they have for Obama. I would still give better than even money she doesn't make it to the post as the Democratic nominee. All she has is money, name recognition, and the strength of omerta.

Omerta will crack under pressure. There's a large space to her left that will feel the need to protect what they have built under this administration, and there's too much Arkansas in the Clintons for them to ever get the trust of the hard left end of the party.

We will see Lizzie Warren emerge at some point. The Obama administration will help this as they see fit.
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To be fair, none of them are like us. At least, maybe the better ones are less like us.

Most important, congratulations to the class of 2001. To those of you who received honors, awards, and distinctions, I say, well done. And to the C students I say, you, too, can be President of the United States. [Laughter] A Yale degree is worth a lot, as I often remind Dick Cheney—[laughter]—who studied here but left a little early. So now we know: If you graduate from Yale, you become President; if you drop out, you get to be Vice President. [Laughter]
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Jib in lad said:
What do the Americans on here think of Elizabeth Warren and why she didn't run.
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not American but I have the vote (so maybe I am, I dunno.)
She took a lot of crap from the right in her race against Brown and that was in a relatively safe blue state. The far right are really scared of her which is kind of ironic as she stands for some of the same stuff. I'd say she looked at why she got in to politics, and the progress she's making in the financial sector. Add to that, the crap she and her family would take from the right and the consistent obstructionist politics she would preside over and she probably said 'life's too short'.
That said, if Hillarys campaign starts really messing up, I'd say she could still be convinced. Id vote for a Warren/Sanders ticket in a heartbeat.
 
SNova said:
I'm sure she will play on the fact that she's a woman. I've already seen the feminist brigade saying they'll vote for her and that it's about time there was a woman president.

She's a terrible choice for president.
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Yeah, just another of women's huge advantages over men, hey? When will men get a chance to be president?
 

dead_soft said:
Yeah, just another of women's huge advantages over men, hey? When will men get a chance to be president?
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Voting for someone based on their gender is literally sexism.

And honestly, do you actually think women are disadvantaged in 2015?
 
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SNova said:
Voting for someone based on their gender is literally sexism.

And honestly, do you actually think women are disadvantaged in 2015?
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Yes. 100%.
I don't think equity exists with consistency yet. Perhaps in some places and some examples but not everywhere.
There's still a pervading discrimination, be it conscious or unconscious, within many work places as well as other avenues of society.
 
Kiwi said:
Yes. 100%.
I don't think equity exists with consistency yet. Perhaps in some places and some examples but not everywhere.
There's still a pervading discrimination, be it conscious or unconscious, within many work places as well as other avenues of society.
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I disagree. Young women are even out earning men. And there is not one right that men have that women dont.
 

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