H. Clinton

summerisle · April 13, 2015

LinekersLegs said:
@summerisle

Always love the phrase "consultants and special interests". Both sides have campaign input that can be described that way but if they are the same politcal persuasion they are referred to as "advisors and concerned citizens/patriots".

I'm always suspicious when traditional values are mentioned. What tradition and whose values. Patriotism always smells too much of Jo McCarthy.
I get two to three emails a week from ' Heritage Action'. It keeps me entertained. Over here with a name like that they would be campaigning to save an old gasworks.

Huyton Layne · April 13, 2015

LostLegend said:
I love the Yanks obsession with the word 'patriot'
The political types love throwing it around.

Calling a Yank unpatriotic usually provokes the same reaction as calling someone on here a kopite

The true Irony being that their country was founded by a bunch of treasonous rats

SerenityNigh · April 13, 2015

roydo said:
Two families look like they might lead the "Free World" for about 30 years.

Ace.

Political position aside, this is it for me. I'll be voting against Hilary and Jeb (if he runs) as often as I can.

SerenityNigh · April 13, 2015

roydo said:
Two families look like they might lead the "Free World" for about 30 years.

Ace.

Wait! Remember there was some black guy in the middle, between the other Presidents... what was his name?

SerenityNigh · April 13, 2015

verreauxi said:
Strategically, this isn't a smart move on the part of the Democrats. She is a lightning rod for two reasons: 1) she's a Clinton; 2) she's a woman. This latter might sound harsh but I don't think the general electorate (i.e., the average American) is ready for a woman president. And you might counter with "well, perhaps they weren't ready for a black man, but look at Obama" to which I would counter with "see my point #1". Folks with even marginal anti-Democrat tendencies or undecided voters with slight Libertarian leanings will not be on her side. And there is a huge amount of sexism in the USA, the same way there is a huge amount of racism. Obama won the presidency with a large percentage of youth voters--many of them were first-time voters, with unmarried women making up the largest percentage of first-time voters. I'm not so sure Hilary will galvanize that same demographic. Overall, doesn't seem smart on the part of the DNC.

And to be clear, I would easily vote for Hillary and have no problem with a woman as president. But more important to me is keeping tea-party and/or Republican folks out of office, with whom I profoundly disagree (the latter is a huge understatement). And strategically I'm not so sure Hillary is the right person to do this.

I will happily eat crow--gleeful mouthfuls of it--if she is elected in 2016.

Add to this: while her husband is very charming, she's a cold, wet blanket.

roydo · April 13, 2015

SerenityNigh said:
Wait! Remember there was some black guy in the middle, between the other Presidents... what was his name?

Didnt say "The last 30 years"

SerenityNigh · April 13, 2015

LostLegend said:
I love the Yanks obsession with the word 'patriot'
The political types love throwing it around.

Calling a Yank unpatriotic usually provokes the same reaction as calling someone on here a kopite

Get to...

oh, I see what you're doing...

*calms down

SNova · April 13, 2015

I'm sure she will play on the fact that she's a woman. I've already seen the feminist brigade saying they'll vote for her and that it's about time there was a woman president.

She's a terrible choice for president.

ijjysmith · April 13, 2015

But Maggie is still dead yeah?

bignev23 · April 13, 2015

Pat's Van said:
fine looking woman

She must give a crap chew though.

mezzrow · April 13, 2015

SerenityNigh said:
Political position aside, this is it for me. I'll be voting against Hilary and Jeb (if he runs) as often as I can.

(nods) Yep. Me too. Enough is enough.

I'd love to ask Hill this question for attribution, though: "Do the underage girls held as sex slaves on Jeffrey Epstein’s private island that Bill visited feel “empowered” by Hillary’s candidacy?"