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davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Pretty fair assessment of how the club has run aground. But, to be honest, I'm sick of hearing analysis from a Moyes perspective and how we're not fit to have him. He's a good manager who we need to keep because he's proven he can use whatever funds he gets, but his role isn't the be all and end all.
And the point about Kenwright staying unless a rich benefactor is found is as stale as he says Everton are. We need some investment. That's it. No one is holding their breath for a billionaire, just waiting and wondering with quiet fury why the enormously wealthy men in our boardroom aren't backing the team.
And the point about Kenwright staying unless a rich benefactor is found is as stale as he says Everton are. We need some investment. That's it. No one is holding their breath for a billionaire, just waiting and wondering with quiet fury why the enormously wealthy men in our boardroom aren't backing the team.
kenada_blue
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And thats why the outsiders looking in sound all shocked when you mention the details the fans know rather than goin off soundbites and the odd game they watch when we get a result against one of the top teams.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Yep. You only have to read the comments on that blog to realise that.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
On the pitch it seems like Moyes presumes his players are so well drilled by now that he can just send them out. We hear so much about how Moyes is one of the hardest working managers in the game but there seems to be so much evidence that contradicts that.
1) When asked in his press conference whether we'd practiced penalties ahead of the Chelsea game, he said no. Heitinga backed that up. It appears that Neville went in by himself to practice on his day off. Given that something like four out of our last five games against Chelsea have ended in draws, wouldn't it have been wise to prepare for spot kicks?
2) We seem to suffer more injuries than most. More than likely it will be down to over-playing a small squad. It's understandable that he's reticent about blooding the youngsters, but why doesn't he rotate in Hibbert and Heitinga more to give some players a rest. Perhaps if he'd done that against Sunderland we wouldn't have lost Fellaini for the season.
3) He says that he doesn't know why we suffer such poor starts to the season. I'm convinced it's because we play such lowly opposition, whilst other teams arrange glamour ties against some of Europe's big guns to get themselves up to speed.
4) Moyes pretty much pioneered 4-4-1-1 and it was successful for a while. Other teams caught up with us on that one and have now evolved into using different systems, such as 4-2-3-1. We seem to be stuck in a rut. Our tried and trusted formation might be alright for defending a slender lead against a team who wants to play football against us but, with no width and very little to aim at up front, it's useless against a packed defence. We really should have a plan b by now.
5) When was the last time we saw a training ground routine come off in a game? We've recently discovered that Bily has a long throw on him. Why is it only used if he's the nearest to the throw in? Why haven't we been aiming it at Fellaini in the box? What do the players actually do on the training ground all week?
I still think that we've got a fantastically talented squad, but that we're rudderless. Moyes seems to at last be prepared to experiment to find a winning formula, but then he doesn't learn. If Bily and Baines are going to play together they need instruction or else they're on completely different wavelengths. Given how appalling Arteta has been all season, it would make sense to tighten up central midfield and to have him cutting on to his right foot from the left. It seems to epitomise Moyse's philosophy that he'll keep banging his head against a wall until things fall our way. It still grates with me when he said "tactics aren't rocket science". Ask Mourinho or Hiddink and they'll tell you that football is a science. Working harder isn't always the solution. Moyes needs to work smarter.
1) When asked in his press conference whether we'd practiced penalties ahead of the Chelsea game, he said no. Heitinga backed that up. It appears that Neville went in by himself to practice on his day off. Given that something like four out of our last five games against Chelsea have ended in draws, wouldn't it have been wise to prepare for spot kicks?
2) We seem to suffer more injuries than most. More than likely it will be down to over-playing a small squad. It's understandable that he's reticent about blooding the youngsters, but why doesn't he rotate in Hibbert and Heitinga more to give some players a rest. Perhaps if he'd done that against Sunderland we wouldn't have lost Fellaini for the season.
3) He says that he doesn't know why we suffer such poor starts to the season. I'm convinced it's because we play such lowly opposition, whilst other teams arrange glamour ties against some of Europe's big guns to get themselves up to speed.
4) Moyes pretty much pioneered 4-4-1-1 and it was successful for a while. Other teams caught up with us on that one and have now evolved into using different systems, such as 4-2-3-1. We seem to be stuck in a rut. Our tried and trusted formation might be alright for defending a slender lead against a team who wants to play football against us but, with no width and very little to aim at up front, it's useless against a packed defence. We really should have a plan b by now.
5) When was the last time we saw a training ground routine come off in a game? We've recently discovered that Bily has a long throw on him. Why is it only used if he's the nearest to the throw in? Why haven't we been aiming it at Fellaini in the box? What do the players actually do on the training ground all week?
I still think that we've got a fantastically talented squad, but that we're rudderless. Moyes seems to at last be prepared to experiment to find a winning formula, but then he doesn't learn. If Bily and Baines are going to play together they need instruction or else they're on completely different wavelengths. Given how appalling Arteta has been all season, it would make sense to tighten up central midfield and to have him cutting on to his right foot from the left. It seems to epitomise Moyse's philosophy that he'll keep banging his head against a wall until things fall our way. It still grates with me when he said "tactics aren't rocket science". Ask Mourinho or Hiddink and they'll tell you that football is a science. Working harder isn't always the solution. Moyes needs to work smarter.
kenada_blue
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marcus
Player Valuation: £15m
Can not disagree with the above and I also think Moyes needs to be more attacking against the lesser teams especially at home where we have lost vital points not being agressive and attacking enough in the first 20 Minutes.
I am a Moyes fan however I can see the cracks so surely Moyes can too.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
Reading's manager said that he noticed that we leave 2v2 at the back and planned to exploit it on the counter. We've been caught like that a few times this season. Surely it can't be a deliberate tactic to send both Baines and Neville forward. Even at youth level they tell you that if one side goes forward, then the other side stays. If the players are taking it on themselves to bomb forward, why hasn't Moyes recognised it as a problem and addressed it?
He talks about how centrebacks don't score enough goals for us. Jags and Distin haven't scored an awful lot of goals for their previous clubs, but Heitinga had about a 1 in 5 record. Huth, Vidic, Koscielny, Ivanovic, Hangeland, Samba, Terry, Lescott, Toure and Skrtel all regularly contribute goals to their teams. Cahill aside, it's rare for us to even win a header from a set piece.
My point is that there are lots of areas that Moyes could address and improve upon. One of our main problems is that we're toothless up front. That's because we counter too slowly and launch long, diagonal balls in to the box whether there's anybody to aim at or not. When have we ever scored or created a chance from a long ball by Jags or Neville? We came back against United because we flooded the box. Most other teams get players forward and back quickly. In comparison we're static. Very often we're lucky if we have two players in the box and yet, somehow, we still get caught on the counter! We should be learning every week, not repeating the sames things until we get a fluke.
The players say that they're thoroughly prepared, but all I can see is a team who play the percentages and just cross their fingers. I see no evidence of anything that we've worked on from one game to the next.
He talks about how centrebacks don't score enough goals for us. Jags and Distin haven't scored an awful lot of goals for their previous clubs, but Heitinga had about a 1 in 5 record. Huth, Vidic, Koscielny, Ivanovic, Hangeland, Samba, Terry, Lescott, Toure and Skrtel all regularly contribute goals to their teams. Cahill aside, it's rare for us to even win a header from a set piece.
My point is that there are lots of areas that Moyes could address and improve upon. One of our main problems is that we're toothless up front. That's because we counter too slowly and launch long, diagonal balls in to the box whether there's anybody to aim at or not. When have we ever scored or created a chance from a long ball by Jags or Neville? We came back against United because we flooded the box. Most other teams get players forward and back quickly. In comparison we're static. Very often we're lucky if we have two players in the box and yet, somehow, we still get caught on the counter! We should be learning every week, not repeating the sames things until we get a fluke.
The players say that they're thoroughly prepared, but all I can see is a team who play the percentages and just cross their fingers. I see no evidence of anything that we've worked on from one game to the next.
BigBlueConk
Player Valuation: £70m
Steve Round OUT. Billycopper IN!
Time to give the kids a game and drop a couple of players now and again. We will amass enough points to stutter over the line and keep clear of relegation. Give games to the kids and see what they can do for us. One or two at a time.
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
Villa might not be the best example to use, as they're having an equally poor season by their standards, but I've been impressed by the likes of Albrighton, Clark and Bannan. Delfounso is another who is very highly rated. They've also given an opportunity to Herd, Baker, Delph and loanee Kyle Walker. They could have stuck with seasoned pros such as Ireland, Sidwell and Carew, but they've been bold and given youth a chance. They haven't panicked that it hasn't quite worked out and gone back on those principles, and that's admirable. I'm sure that they'll pull away from the bottom of the table and in a year or two's time, Villa's young players will be being lauded as stars of the future.
Coming back to Everton, I'm very disappointed in the treatment of players such as Baxter, Duffy and Gueye. Many will argue that they're not ready. As I've said before, the only way to learn the game is by playing it. It will do nothing for their development to sit on the bench with very little prospect of being used. Distin will be 34 this year and must be feeling the pace of being an ever-present. At the very least Moyes should be rotating him with Heitinga every now and then. I would like to see Duffy play though. If Liverpool have the courage to use Wilson, why can't we show the same faith in our own youngsters?
Coming back to Everton, I'm very disappointed in the treatment of players such as Baxter, Duffy and Gueye. Many will argue that they're not ready. As I've said before, the only way to learn the game is by playing it. It will do nothing for their development to sit on the bench with very little prospect of being used. Distin will be 34 this year and must be feeling the pace of being an ever-present. At the very least Moyes should be rotating him with Heitinga every now and then. I would like to see Duffy play though. If Liverpool have the courage to use Wilson, why can't we show the same faith in our own youngsters?
kenada_blue
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I mentioned the very same thing to a mate after the game.
The same **** happens time and time again but Moyes and the players etc just havent found a way to stop counters on the back of ineffective build up play. Stuff like that was apparant since the opening game of the season.
It stuck out like a sore thumb against Chelsea at home in the FA Cup. They countered and scored on the back of one of our throw ins. How is that possible? From a throw?
billycopper
Player Valuation: £40m
Off the top of my head I remember both Wolves and Blackpool breaking 3v3 against us. I think part of the problem is that Arteta isn't defensively minded (he jogs back and doesn't pick anybody up) and Fellaini/Rodwell/Heitinga want to get forward rather than play a disciplined anchor role. We leave our defence exposed and they back off until the opposition are in shooting range. Personally, I'd put Neville in there. It might be worth giving Heitinga a run at right back to keep him sweet and to add some fight to the team. He's a bit of a liability and that's one position where he can't cause too much damage.
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