Glasto 2023

[Papa Shango]

I will agree with that - their placing on the bill was really weird to me

I think the main issue with The Manics is they are a bit too prolific.

By that I mean they always seem to be on tour somewhere, I have seen them as headliners, as a support act and it some really small random events so I think them doing a show isnt seen as such a big deal which is a shame as they are fantastic.

 

[tommye]

Also the Manics are quite big on welsh independence so they'd have to go and start their own festival - Daffodilbury or something

Needs more Ls

 

[davek]

So The Pretenders come on stage, they're headlining Glastonbury, they sing Brass in pocket, crowd goes wild.

Then what? There's like 2.5 hours to fill, the brass in.pocket remix?

It'd be like the disco on Father Ted where the only record they have is Ghost Town.

Is this a wind up?

Back on the chain gang
Brass in pocket
Stop your sobbing
Talk of the Town
I'll stand by you
Kid
2000 miles
Thin line between love and hate
Hymn to her
I go to sleep

...shove in a couple of UB40 hits and that'll give you a 90 minute set.

 

[Papa Shango]

It's a matter of quality control.

I cant believe people want to see a big act in the twilight of their career and showing their limitations over a still at the top of their game big act.

Its not though!

The quality is irrelevent if people enjoy it!

And the quality allegedly was really good last night anyway so I dont really get your point in this regard. Your argument would make loads more sense if Elton John was crap last night but he wasn't.

If you have such strong opinions on this then just take Elton John out of the equation as an anomaly last night because doubling down on him being crap last night when he obviously wasn't is ludicrous/laughable!

 

[davek]

Well how else was he supposed to interpret it Dave? haha lol

It's not an all inclusive statement.

This is strange that people cant read what I said - and after me stating it's not a an age thing but a quality thing.

 

[tommye]

Is this a wind up?

Back on the chain gang
Brass in pocket
Stop your sobbing
Talk of the Town
I'll stand by you
Kid
2000 miles
Thin line between love and hate
Hymn to her
I go to sleep

...shove in a couple of UB40 hits and that'll give you a 90 minute set.

She'll barely squeeze an hour out of that.
So, not her own back catalogue for a 2hr set then?

Keep flailing about mate.
You'll catch something eventually.

 

[Papa Shango]

Is this a wind up?

Back on the chain gang
Brass in pocket
Stop your sobbing
Talk of the Town
I'll stand by you
Kid
2000 miles
Thin line between love and hate
Hymn to her
I go to sleep

...shove in a couple of UB40 hits and that'll give you a 90 minute set.

The general populous (the target audience here) doesn't know most of these songs.

You know this.

(All good songs by the way)

 

[davek]

Not many of those to be fair. Certainly not for a 2-3 hourheadline slot.

Older acts have the back catalogues to do it.

Simple Minds, New Order, etc would be all over that slot.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

Is this a wind up?

Back on the chain gang
Brass in pocket
Stop your sobbing
Talk of the Town
I'll stand by you
Kid
2000 miles
Thin line between love and hate
Hymn to her
I go to sleep

...shove in a couple of UB40 hits and that'll give you a 90 minute set.

Well I meant ones that people want to hear

 

[tommye]

Simple Minds, New Order, etc would be all over that slot.

More oldies.

Keep flailing pal.
Itll come

 

[Papa Shango]

Simple Minds, New Order, etc would be all over that slot.

There would be a massive risk of John Barnes turning up on stage for New Order. (He gets everywhere else).

For that reason alone I am out.

 

[ToffeeTim]

He's a massive draw. No question. But there has to be quality control too.

I thought the quality was top drawer, and a lot of people who know much more about music than I do agreed.

I'm just a music fan who can play a few chords on a guitar. But lots of other proper music people thought it was a superb show.

 

[navidson]

I think the main issue with The Manics is they are a bit too prolific.

By that I mean they always seem to be on tour somewhere, I have seen them as headliners, as a support act and it some really small random events so I think them doing a show isnt seen as such a big deal which is a shame as they are fantastic.

It's a bit of a strange one with the Manics

They were probably the biggest British rock/alternative/indie band around the turn of the century - but, as you say, they consistently continued releasing new music since then - and the number of people buying it has dwindled (despite it being some of their finest stuff - both 'Journal for Plague Lovers' and 'Send Away the Tigers' are great albums)

There's a bit of a "Show us your setlist before we book you" about the situation. If they were to play

Motorcycle Emptiness
You Love Us
A Design for Life
From Despair to Where
Faster
Suicide is Painless
Kevin Carter
Everything Must Go
Your Love Alone is not Enough
Australia
If you Tolerate this...
You Stole the sun
The Masses against the Classes
The Everlasting
Motown Junk

Who would really argue that they shoudn't be in that Arctic Monkeys slot?

 

[trueblue84]

Simple Minds, New Order, etc would be all over that slot.

2 bands that formed in '77 and '80 respectively. Hardly bands at their peak.

 

[Kurt.]

It's a matter of quality control.

I cant believe people want to see a big act in the twilight of their career and showing their limitations over a still at the top of their game big act.

You didn’t even watch it Dave