Gestures for the the Queen before West Ham game

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Oddball said:
would you call it a chicken/egg thing

i was told when i was a youngster that being from Liverpool was a stigma until the Beatles came along. i then learnt it independently from ex-pats of an older generation when i moved to London.
anything from Liverpool became a target for the media and the city was shown in a very negative light, especially in the 1980s with Militant etc

i think the rest of the country believed the hype, attitudes and stereotypes are reinforced and develop depending on circumstances.
i`m obviously no sociologist its just my experience i`m passing on.
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Thats odd as in other sections of the forum you act like you know everything
Rita_Poon said:
Hmmm. There was a little girls funeral today, it was asked for mourners to wear pink.

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(if you've got one wear it) 9 minutes in, full minute of applause please.
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And before the game and at the 70th min
 

coollino said:
Thats odd as in other sections of the forum you act like you know everything


And before the game and at the 70th min
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Not sure why I've been quoted with trig, or as to the message. Forgive me, I've seen the horses with pink silks for the funeral procession on the news and would like to follow for the club to ask if the league would let the side play in pink (with arm bands for QEII) to honour Olivia's life, and the scourge of gun violence on our cities fair streets.
 
Rita_Poon said:
Not sure why I've been quoted with trig, or as to the message. Forgive me, I've seen the horses with pink silks for the funeral procession on the news and would like to follow for the club to ask if the league would let the side play in pink (with arm bands for QEII) to honour Olivia's life, and the scourge of gun violence on our cities fair streets.
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They aren't related pal, first and last time I do a multi message lol

I agree with what you said
 

efcfanwirral said:
If you take away audibly protest against what's wrong with the other options?
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…nothing, but those are then all respectful options.

i have to say, a 2 minute silence is ok but if the National Anthem is part of the procedures then that is a bit much. A little respect is all that matters.

My Mum passed in 1989, the funeral procession went past a bus stop in Knotty Ash & an old bloke took off his cap and bowed his head. I have no idea who he was, he will have no idea that over 30 years later that simple sign of respect stuck with me.
 

twoblue said:
You boo foreign national anthems? One of those then
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I just said my conditions for booing there...
Bluebonic said:
I genuinely hope nobody boo’s. I am not a royalist but you would effectively be booing the death of an old woman. Regardless of her occupation that is a bit rank. Dont stand up would be a far more tasteful protest. Booing just brackets us woth the mutants across the park.
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Just because the mutants across the park do it doesn't make it wrong. In fact I wish we had a bit more anti British pride in us as the original Catholic club in the city.

I would agree with you about booing an old woman if we were showing up at her private funeral and doing so. But they're asking you to stay silent for a minute and show respect to the POSITION of the queen. Not the woman herself. It would be the same if any other ruling monarch died. Booing is a normal reaction
 
twoblue said:
As a historian, please can we have sources for these figures.
Any good historian would be able to argue that British had both a positive and negative effect in colonial rule. Before obviously suggesting the strength of evidence lies one way or the other (usually based on prior bias related to your political persuasion).
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Are you seriously asking for a clear historical discussion of 300 years of British rule in India on a football forum.
The EIC arrived. They plundered the richest country on Earth. They did not care about human life just profit. You can look the EIC debates about whether they should raise taxes during the Bengal famine to make up for the dead. It's all carefully compiled.

Honestly asking for positives is no different from saying Mussolini made the trains run on time or Fred West laid an excellent patio.

Politics has nothing to do with it. Labour and the Tory's were both utterly complicit.
 
GrandOldSte117 said:
I just said my conditions for booing there...

Just because the mutants across the park do it doesn't make it wrong. In fact I wish we had a bit more anti British pride in us as the original Catholic club in the city.

I would agree with you about booing an old woman if we were showing up at her private funeral and doing so. But they're asking you to stay silent for a minute and show respect to the POSITION of the queen. Not the woman herself. It would be the same if any other ruling monarch died. Booing is a normal reaction
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Are you saying Catholics should be anti British ? How weird, how archaic is that?
 

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