George Clooney is Not from F@cking Sudan

[Hibbosculturedrightboot]

i don't understand why you lot are so concerned with world affairs. We have our own problems. We should focus on those. Starting with the Welsh and their nuclear arms programme.

 

[Elong]

i thought angola was in africa. youre the ronald mcdonald of pop-corners macca lad. p.s. do you even know - crisis nations need publicity before things go all holocaust on their ass, ever heard of biafra. if their plight is left unrecognised for so long eventually you get the aftermath on the 6 o`clock news and all the hand-wringing and crocodile tears by the media/politicians. clooney is at the forefront. do your self a favour and watch Out of sight, and Oh brother where art thou

I take it you know about the state of America's poor then? That country is up in it's ears in it's own crap right now.

 

[TX Bill]

I actually agree with what the Americans have done here. If this guy was tried in Afghanistan it would be the very definition of a kangaroo court. They don't have the same rules of fair trial out there.

What the guy did is horrific, probably the worst act committed by a western soldier in a combat zone since Vietnam, worse even than everything went on at Abu Ghraib.

However, I'll guarantee now, the guy didn't go out and do this for kicks. This was no premeditated cold blooded murder. This guy has flipped. The day before he watched his friend blown up in an explosion. Try to imagine that for a minute. You're walking down a road in rural England/backwater Australia towards a village when bang, all of a sudden, your best pal is in a hundred pieces and his brain and skull fragments are coating your face.

What happens out there doesn't happen to normal people. Normal people aren't then asked to go walk down that same road the next day. Too often, PTSD, or shell shock, is played down. Take it from someone who's seen it close hand, it's real and it's f*cking scary.

So yeah, the guy deserves to do serious prison time, and he will. But hanging him from a tree in some dusty Helmand village achieves nothing. That's my tuppence worth anyway.

Good post and yeah, he'll spend the rest of his life in a prison/mental institution. As well he should.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

what a hunk

 

[TX Bill]

Good post and yeah, he'll spend the rest of his life in a prison/mental institution. As well he should.

Sad sad deal. Looks like he just whacked out. Family man too. Really bad. Really bad.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/03/16/sources-identify-us-soldier-suspected-in-afghan-massacre/

 

[McBain]

Too true. Of course it's terribly harsh to say that one soldier represents America etc etc, and Americans are fantastic people in general, every country has their bad eggs. (I'm not just saying this because a couple of mods on here are yanks either, please don't hurt me ffs!).
But I get what you're saying.

I love Yanks as individuals, but get them all together and they start imposing things. Not good.

I actually agree with what the Americans have done here. If this guy was tried in Afghanistan it would be the very definition of a kangaroo court. They don't have the same rules of fair trial out there.

What the guy did is horrific, probably the worst act committed by a western soldier in a combat zone since Vietnam, worse even than everything went on at Abu Ghraib.

However, I'll guarantee now, the guy didn't go out and do this for kicks. This was no premeditated cold blooded murder. This guy has flipped. The day before he watched his friend blown up in an explosion. Try to imagine that for a minute. You're walking down a road in rural England/backwater Australia towards a village when bang, all of a sudden, your best pal is in a hundred pieces and his brain and skull fragments are coating your face.

What happens out there doesn't happen to normal people. Normal people aren't then asked to go walk down that same road the next day. Too often, PTSD, or shell shock, is played down. Take it from someone who's seen it close hand, it's real and it's f*cking scary.

So yeah, the guy deserves to do serious prison time, and he will. But hanging him from a tree in some dusty Helmand village achieves nothing. That's my tuppence worth anyway.

I hear what your saying, but if I did the same thing in America, would I be immediately taken back to Aus? The guy is a TRAINED SOLDIER not some guy walking down the road when his mates face got blown off! HE IS TRAINED TO KILL. He is trained to kill people, and he went nuts and killed a bunch of people. Did he kill his own kind? Did he kill other American Soldiers? If he did, by rights, go home, face your own courts. But he didn't. He killed innocent Afghans.

The real point here is that you are so ready to dish out American Justice when you fell like it, and now there's whole families who just got murdered, and where's their justice? They want to see the guy hang and I don't blame them one bit. But no, you gotta turn a whole bunch of people against you because you don't play by your own rules.

Don't you see that theres now a whole bunch more people who's lives 'America' just destroyed and won't get to see any form of justice? Do you not realise the kids that grow up watching these things absolutely end up hating you enough to want to become terrorists, and get you back?

Throw him to the wolves. He did the crime, your sending out the wrong message by protecting him.

i thought angola was in africa. youre the ronald mcdonald of pop-corners macca lad. p.s. do you even know - crisis nations need publicity before things go all holocaust on their ass, ever heard of biafra. if their plight is left unrecognised for so long eventually you get the aftermath on the 6 o`clock news and all the hand-wringing and crocodile tears by the media/politicians. clooney is at the forefront. do your self a favour and watch Out of sight, and Oh brother where art thou

Crisis Nations need people who will lead without corruption. No self righteous multi millionaire who dates women half his age and can't even start a family because of his philandering just ain't going to convince me otherwise. I'm more interested in my own people. Africa will always be unto it's own, and anything we as westerners do there will never ever work. As soon as we figure that out we can save a hell of a lot of money.

maybe they think you need educating. i think they have a point

Says the man allergic to punctuation. Using English correctly is a sign of respect on any forum, mate. Sloppy stuff.

 

[bignev23]

Got to agree with mac about the american soldier. also clooney might be a self righteous cnut but can only be a good thing to try and stop genocide happening.

 

[davek]

That soldier who went berserk:

• recently convicted of assault and served anger management tiime - check
• 3 tours of Iraq and didn't want to go back over to the region again - check
• dodgy (possibly self-inflicted) head injury - check

...I know, lets send him to Afghanistan to work with special forces.

Whoever decided to deploy him should be sharing the same cell.

 

[Jamo Martinez]

Id like to see him in the top job, but not if he shuns his own people for the sakes of some very unfortunate people with whom he has no relevant connection.

They happen to be humans too.