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sorry if there is a thread open already i could not see one.
so tipperary have started off very strong in the hurling league and the dubs never know when they are beaten in the football it seems.
wexford the shock front runners for promotion out of 1b and think they only have to beat offaly this weekend to secure it.davy working a few miracles.
 

with all the money they get for coaching for the past 15 years, they are set to dominate for the next few years

its financial doping by the GAA

What money for coaching mate, the development funding, used for Cul Camps for kids? Dublin are woefully underfunded for the success they have had.

I agree Dublin will dominate, but more down to talent then finance, the Game is growing from strength to strength in the capitol and regressing rurally.
 
they get more money from central GAA funds for coaching and development than the rest of the country combined.

on top of all the sponsorship hey are able to rake in
plus all the big crowds in Croke Park from league games
 

they get more money from central GAA funds for coaching and development than the rest of the country combined.

on top of all the sponsorship hey are able to rake in
plus all the big crowds in Croke Park from league games

They get development funding, to coach and attract young players to play the game and join a club. The money doesn't go to Senior club players never mind county players. You will be aware that it's Mayo who spend he most on their senior county teams as opposed to any other county. Dublin get the most funding because over close to a third of the poulation of the country live in Dublin. I would also point out that not all of those who live in Dublin are from Dublin so benefit from that funding to.

The funding arguement is a lazy one developed by poor sore counties who can't get to the standard of this great Dublin team.

You do know Dublins gate receipts are kept by the Gaa and redistributed around the country, trust me for what Dublin put into/make the GAA they take marginal amounts out.
 
Going to be some game in Tralee next week, The Dubs going for 34 unbeaten.
Better off losing it in the league rather than the championship.bit of a novel game being on in austin stack park usually on in killarney.parking brutal below in tralee as well near the ground.
 
They get development funding, to coach and attract young players to play the game and join a club. The money doesn't go to Senior club players never mind county players. You will be aware that it's Mayo who spend he most on their senior county teams as opposed to any other county. Dublin get the most funding because over close to a third of the poulation of the country live in Dublin. I would also point out that not all of those who live in Dublin are from Dublin so benefit from that funding to.

The funding arguement is a lazy one developed by poor sore counties who can't get to the standard of this great Dublin team.

You do know Dublins gate receipts are kept by the Gaa and redistributed around the country, trust me for what Dublin put into/make the GAA they take marginal amounts out.
Ya every team has it's periods of dominance.kerry had there time in football.the ulster teams had a period of dominance at one stage to.kilkenny in hurling.all good things come to an end at some stage and another team takes over.
 
Ya every team has it's periods of dominance.kerry had there time in football.the ulster teams had a period of dominance at one stage to.kilkenny in hurling.all good things come to an end at some stage and another team takes over.

Agree it's cyclical and this Dublin team will come to its natural end. Yet it's the first time ever the GAA have been this organised in Dublin and I expect Dublin not to spend to much time in the wilderness as they have in the past. Much has been sown in these years of success and standards raised.
 

They get development funding, to coach and attract young players to play the game and join a club. The money doesn't go to Senior club players never mind county players. You will be aware that it's Mayo who spend he most on their senior county teams as opposed to any other county. Dublin get the most funding because over close to a third of the poulation of the country live in Dublin. I would also point out that not all of those who live in Dublin are from Dublin so benefit from that funding to.

The funding arguement is a lazy one developed by poor sore counties who can't get to the standard of this great Dublin team.

You do know Dublins gate receipts are kept by the Gaa and redistributed around the country, trust me for what Dublin put into/make the GAA they take marginal amounts out.
you must be a RS cause you are delusional. like most Dub fans.
every counties gate receipts are pooled centrally. so Dublin are funded out of every other counties gate receipts too.
It'd be like the premier league funding all the underage acadamies in premier league clubs, but then giving half of the money to Liverpool and splitting the rest up amongst the other clubs to run their programmes.

that is basically what the GAA are doing
I never mentioned the spending on county teams. that is separate. Dublin can generate huge revenue from sponsorship that other counties cannot. all Dublin players live and work in Dublin so don't need to claim large expenses for mileage to and from training and games. Mayo have 7/8 lads at least working in the Pale

Are other counties sore? No. Clubs down the country would like the same level of support that clubs in Dublin get.
The reason the standard of players coming through in Dublin is that they have FULL TIME coaches going into schools, coaching to a well organised and funded programme, recruiting kids to the local clubs and coaching to a set program supervised by the same FULL TIME coaches and then those talented 13/14 year olds come into the Dublin county development system. where again Dublin have FULL TIME coaches able to take all the teams for training sessions.

Dublin take advantage of all the excellent facilities in the capital - DCU, UCD.
The likes of Roscommon or Westmeath don't even have a dedicated pitch to train on

Clubs down the country do everything by volunteers. There is no money to run coaching programmes
Most counties also run most county development coaching programmes using volunteers

the GAA is financial doping Dublin GAA
 
Tipperary 2-17 Kilkenny 3-14

Old rivals Kilkenny ended Tipperary’s 100 per cent record in Division 1A of the Allianz Hurling League – as TJ Reid bagged 3-05 at Semple Stadium.

Reid’s haul included a penalty goal in each half and four frees as the Cats provided proof positive that they haven’t gone away.

Fresh from registering their first win of the campaign against Cork last Sunday, Kilkenny upped their performance levels considerably again, as Tipp needed a 70th-minute point from sub Steven O’Brien to maintain their unbeaten start.

But Tipp could point to late missed chances too, as John ‘Bubbles’ O’Dwyer flashed efforts wide from each wing.



In truth, a draw was a fair result as this helter-skelter fixture was a throwback to some of the classic games between the counties in recent years.

In front of 14,763 spectators, this was rip-roaring stuff and while Tipp led by four points at half-time, 2-11 to 2-07, there was never a suggestion that there would be a clear-cut winner.

The sides traded four goals in an entertaining first half, Tipp striking first in the third minute when John McGrath took advantage of chaos in the Kilkenny full-back line to pounce from close range.

But Kilkenny were level at 1-01 each when Reid fired home a bullet in the fifth minute as Tipp goalkeeper Darragh Mooney was left rooted to the spot.

Tipp reeled off the next four points of the game and by the 22nd minute they had their biggest lead of the game to date when Niall O’Meara found the back of the Kilkenny net.

O’Dwyer was the provider and O’Meara held his nerve to strike an angled finish across Eoin Murphy and into the far corner.

That goal sent Tipp into a 2-07 to 1-02 lead but in a hugely-physical encounter Reid was leading the Kilkenny charge.

He goaled again on the half-hour mark for a penalty, awarded by referee James Owens for a Michael Cahill foul on Alan Murphy.

Again, Mooney had no chance, as Reid struck the ball with venomous speed from the 20m line.

Even then, there was still time for six further points in the opening half, Tipp winning that spell by 0-04 to 0-02 to lead by four at the break.

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But from the 22nd minute, when Tipp had that eight-point advantage, they were outscored by 0-04 to 1-05 approaching half-time.

In the second half, Tipp managed to keep daylight between themselves and the Cats, as the first competitive meeting of the counties since last year’s All-Ireland final reached a rich crescendo.

With 13 minutes of normal time remaining, Kilkenny had the chance to level when Liam Blanchfield was fouled, and Reid blasted past the stationary Mooney again.

Richie Hogan, moved into full-forward, was proving a handful for James Barry and a couple of classy points kept the scoreboard ticking over for the Noresiders.

But on four occasions down the home straight they were deadlocked, and Kilkenny goalkeeper Murphy had a big say in that.

Four minutes from time, John McGrath looked odds-on to goal when he skipped past Paul Murphy, but Eoin Murphy performed heroics to keep him out.

On the follow-up, Seamus Callanan screwed a ground-stroke wide and buoyed by that, Kilkenny edged ahead with a point from Cillian Buckley.

O’Brien levelled in the 70th minute, but the two additional minutes failed to provide a winner.

Tipperary: D Mooney; J O’Keeffe, J Barry, M Cahill; T Hamill, R Maher, P Maher (0-01); S Curran (0-02), M Breen; D McCormack (0-02), N O’Meara (1-01), N McGrath (0-01); J O’Dwyer (0-01), S Callanan (0-06, 3f, 165), J McGrath (1-02)

Subs: K Bergin for Breen (35), J Forde for McCormack (55), S Kennedy for Cahill (58), S O’Brien (0-01) for O’Meara (68)

Kilkenny: E Murphy; P Murphy, P Walsh, C O’Shea; C Fogarty, S Prendergast, J Cleere; P Deegan, C Buckley (0-03); C Fennelly, R Hogan (0-04), TJ Reid (3-05, 2-00 pens, 0-04f); A Murphy, W Walsh (0-02), L Blanchfield

Sub: J Maher for A Murphy (40)

Referee: James Owens (Wexford)
 
congrats to wexford on promotion.not davys biggest fan but he brings something to counties in the first season or 2 anyway and with limerick and galway in that division it was a great achievement.
 
you must be a RS cause you are delusional. like most Dub fans.
every counties gate receipts are pooled centrally. so Dublin are funded out of every other counties gate receipts too.
It'd be like the premier league funding all the underage acadamies in premier league clubs, but then giving half of the money to Liverpool and splitting the rest up amongst the other clubs to run their programmes.

that is basically what the GAA are doing
I never mentioned the spending on county teams. that is separate. Dublin can generate huge revenue from sponsorship that other counties cannot. all Dublin players live and work in Dublin so don't need to claim large expenses for mileage to and from training and games. Mayo have 7/8 lads at least working in the Pale

Are other counties sore? No. Clubs down the country would like the same level of support that clubs in Dublin get.
The reason the standard of players coming through in Dublin is that they have FULL TIME coaches going into schools, coaching to a well organised and funded programme, recruiting kids to the local clubs and coaching to a set program supervised by the same FULL TIME coaches and then those talented 13/14 year olds come into the Dublin county development system. where again Dublin have FULL TIME coaches able to take all the teams for training sessions.

Dublin take advantage of all the excellent facilities in the capital - DCU, UCD.
The likes of Roscommon or Westmeath don't even have a dedicated pitch to train on

Clubs down the country do everything by volunteers. There is no money to run coaching programmes
Most counties also run most county development coaching programmes using volunteers

the GAA is financial doping Dublin GAA

Well thanks for that mate, your insults are well received and your tears taste delicious.

Dublin raise a lot in sponsorship, i fail to see a problem there, that is fair enough with the existing rule they arent the only ones what the Kerry Group do for Kerry etc is significant and other counties as you know actively fundraise to the diaspra abroad and is Dublin too. Like it or not sport in Competititve on and off the field the fact Dublin do it better isnt Dublins problem.

How do you know all the Dublin players live in Dublin? i can tell you your wrong there. You can go away with your mileage as well Mayo and other counties have training camps in Dublin most night of the week - using Dublin facilities. maybe if other counties didnt head of to the likes of Dubai, South A, etc they could spend thier money more wisely. Incidently counties have got themsleves into debt by building big white elephants, of centres of excellence and counties have been baliend out by the GAA to the tune of multiple millions and you give out about Dublin sepnding money on coaching. dublin havnt built a centre of excellence and put in plan a place a detailed grass roots programme for coaching, with a population of almost 2 million Dublin will always recieve more. Your wrong about the extent of coaching too, i volunteer to coach underage teams in dublin and give up my free time, you might see a GPA once a year, but i tell you this ex Dublin footballers do get involved in coaching free and you see them far more then a GPA. so your wrong on the full time coaching score. The structural funds are largely used to get kids interested in the game in the capital, which has to compete with soccer and rugby, Dublin has the largest population, the money need to go to the people. rural conties alot but not all have badly managed there finances per population or invested in big white elephants and neglected the game as a whole. The GAA would be remiss in giving more money to other counties after their performence - but thats the answer by the bitter.

Dublin are the cash cow that keeps giving, they are a money spinner to the GAA which is why wyou will only ever see a minor reduction to their funding a strong Dublin = a strong GAA, a packed croke park, a higher profile, higher tv rights, sponsorship etc. Dublin would survie wiothout the GAA, but the GAA need Dublin.

You should see were Dublin actually train, they hardly ever use DCU or UCD unless they need the gym, most of the training takes place in Donnycarny and i have seen better facilites in club houses in Westmeath and Roscommon - where you say there are no pitches.

Listen what ever county you support and i would suspect Mayo of Kerry, your just not good enough, stop deluding your self that your hard done by and look to improve - its the only way.

Anyway im off to Tralee at the weekend, ill be checking out Kerry centre of excellence when im down there.
 
Dublin would survie wiothout the GAA, but the GAA need Dublin.
That is a strange to say. In a GAA free world for Dublin who would be sponsoring them and what for?

All county's contribute to GAA funds and equally importantly, all counties are entitled to funding. You used the argument of population size but Antrim doesn't appear to have the same ratio of funding. I'm happy to be corrected on that.

You also mentioned other counties funding and their past performances, whether you meant that on the field or off it. That notion I do struggle with as the GAA is not an elitist organisation. A child in Carlow, or Offaly, or wherever should expect to have the best coaching available and this should never be linked to the previous efforts of their county.

Dublin are lucky to be able to employ paid coaches and that is something that does make a difference to a county's infrastructure. The aim should be to raise the standards in all counties to this level rather than have a race to the bottom.
 

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