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….we need to carry threat whilst being solid at the back. It’s not complicated, it’s about what you do when in possession and what you do when the opposition has the ball.
I’m actually pleased to see us carrying threat under Dyche. From what I see, we get players in the top third but we waste situations and miss chances. That’s more about lack of quality than tactics.
Defensively we look brittle which is a concern. After taking the lead yesterday, I never felt comfortable and we conceded two goals that seemed too simple for my liking. I wonder if it’s more about guarding the back four than the back four itself. Against Villa, they regularly got players in that gap (between the line of back four and DM). Yesterday, I noticed Gueye sitting deeper in the 2nd half and we looked more solid. Carsley was supreme in that role. Daft as it sounds it‘s about being disciplined and stay in a specific area of the pitch.
Weirdly, it goes against the stereotypical view that Dyche’s teams are defensively sound and lacking creativity. I actually think we’re a bit the other way around.
I’m actually pleased to see us carrying threat under Dyche. From what I see, we get players in the top third but we waste situations and miss chances. That’s more about lack of quality than tactics.
Defensively we look brittle which is a concern. After taking the lead yesterday, I never felt comfortable and we conceded two goals that seemed too simple for my liking. I wonder if it’s more about guarding the back four than the back four itself. Against Villa, they regularly got players in that gap (between the line of back four and DM). Yesterday, I noticed Gueye sitting deeper in the 2nd half and we looked more solid. Carsley was supreme in that role. Daft as it sounds it‘s about being disciplined and stay in a specific area of the pitch.
Weirdly, it goes against the stereotypical view that Dyche’s teams are defensively sound and lacking creativity. I actually think we’re a bit the other way around.
Mykolenko maybe if we have ro but godfrey even yesterday lad has lost it
100% Eggs. If we’d have taken two of our host of chances in each game against Fulham and Wolves nobody would be questioning the formation and we’d be on 7 points.
The more Beto and Danjuma gel and we get McNeil and Harrison fully fit the less we’ll worry about scoring goals and like you say it’s keeping tight that’s more the worry.
TimHowardsBeardJuice
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Agreed and the leaks worry me. The Wolves goal was so weak, if we had just kept our shape and everyone done the basics that cross doesn’t even get launched let alone find a head in the box
Also agreed that it’s the chasm between the presssers up front and the back four that’s the problem. I don’t see Gueye as the answer as a classic 6. Hrs always liked to roam and hunt for the ball. His position discipline is poor. And he’s getting up there.
TimHowardsBeardJuice
Player Valuation: £35m
Wonder about a 4231, with Garner and Onana in a double pivot, Danjuma as a10, and Harrison/McNeil wide?
Indeed it’s about balance, getting the proper balance with the squad available. And also getting the best out of the players by playing them in positions that suit their attributes/skills within a framework that allows the team to play to their strengths whilst safeguarding against the inherent weaknesses within the squad.
Everton are obviously letting in too many goals. In some instances it’s down to individual errors but I think the shape of the team and the tactics employed are the biggest factor in this. I think switching to a 3/2/4/1 allows the team to be a threat offensively, it allows the front 5 to press high whilst still having 2 deeper sitting midfielders in front of the back 3 to stop counter attacks, protect the back 3. It would need the wingers to put in a lot of work to track back and at times make the back 3 a back 5. I know that McNeil is capable of this on the left. If Harrison can do this on right, then that would give the side the balance needed.
The only concern I have about trying this formation is the fact that it utilises all of the 4 central midfielders in the squad.
…yep. One aspect of Iwobi’s game that we’ll miss is his running power in possession from deeper positions than the likes of Danjuma gets in. I think Gray and hopefully Harrison will fill that void and ‘hoofball’ will be less obvious.
Tried Garner and Onana in a 4/2/3/1 against Doncaster and Garner was pretty poor. And Onana also has the tendency to push forward and leave a space behind.
I still think Everton are conceding too many goals, regardless of how many are scored.
….the reality when Everton play formations like this is we play a back 5. It sounds splendid playing wing backs but invariably they fall back into more conventional full back positions. I think playing 3 at the back is a waste of a player. It’s all too complicated. Just my view.
witchdoc187
Player Valuation: £70m
Scored out first goal of the season from one of these though..
With the 3/2/4/1, it wingers not wingbacks that are covering the wide areas. A back 3 can be a little more complicated, getting the offside line correct etc. but the formation I’ve outlined is basically 5 players attack, 5 players defend, a little simplified but basically that’s how it operates. What Dyches is doing at the moment seems more complicated, with midfielders and fullbacks unsure of their positioning. Or midfielders who don’t have the discipline to stay behind the play.
Blue Smoke
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Wonder if mcneil could do a job at left back? Harrison in front of him.
Danjouma out on the right
Danjouma out on the right
I think that would be a waste of McNeils talents. And it still doesn’t address the major problem which in my opinion is the balance and numbers in Central Midfield.
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