Ferguson

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Tubey said:
Certainly. But if they want credibility when highlighting legit issues, which do exist, then they need to pick and choose their battles, and blindly defending a thug just because of the colour of his skin means taking anything they do in the future seriously is a lot more difficult.
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The credibility of the protests wont be undermined by this being the 'wrong' battle to fight it on. The world knows they get a raw deal and that goes beyond the specifics of this incident.
 

davek said:
The credibility of the protests wont be undermined by this being the 'wrong' battle to fight it on. The world knows they get a raw deal and that goes beyond the specifics of this incident.
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If you say so. My reaction now will be, "Oh, I wonder what poorly researched and reactionary bandwagon led by chief racist Al Sharpton they've jumped on now?"
 
davek said:
The credibility of the protests wont be undermined by this being the 'wrong' battle to fight it on. The world knows they get a raw deal and that goes beyond the specifics of this incident.
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I agree. The larger social cause that emanates from this case--public outrage over continued shooting of black men by cops who are later found not guilty--seems to have developed on its own, and the social perception generated from cases like this often, but not always, supercede the facts of the case. Symbolically, the Ferguson case represents a black man unjustly killed, with the perpetrators going free; in the same sense that the Matthew Shepard case represents a gay man targeted for death because he was gay. Both of these caricatures, sadly, have too many similar precedents to count, and these cases represent a tipping point in public perception and social justice. That Shepard may have been a drug-dealer on a deal gone-wrong, and that Wilson may have had "justifiable cause" to shoot Brown are largely overlooked. For the better (in that people have a right to be publicly outraged about such repeated and tragic occurrences), and for the worse (in that the reaction to a perceived injustice often results in massive amounts of social damage and a general disregard for the specific circumstances surrounding each case).
 
verreauxi said:
I agree. The larger social cause that emanates from this case--public outrage over continued shooting of black men by cops who are later found not guilty--seems to have developed on its own, and the social perception generated from cases like this often, but not always, supercede the facts of the case. Symbolically, the Ferguson case represents a black man unjustly killed, with the perpetrators going free; in the same sense that the Matthew Shepard case represents a gay man targeted for death because he was gay. Both of these caricatures, sadly, have too many similar precedents to count, and these cases represent a tipping point in public perception and social justice. That Shepard may have been a drug-dealer on a deal gone-wrong, and that Wilson may have had "justifiable cause" to shoot Brown are largely overlooked. For the better (in that people have a right to be publicly outraged about such repeated and tragic occurrences), and for the worse (in that the reaction to a perceived injustice often results in massive amounts of social damage and a general disregard for the specific circumstances surrounding each case).
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Exactly. In fact, the more the 'unworthiness' of Brown is highlighted the greater amount of resentment there will be toward the decision, as it'll be taken as a slap in the face for the campaign to highlight a generalised assault on black men that only morons would deny takes place.

Of course, you cant rule against the individual copper who (*apparently*) defended himself, but the justice system over there is on the horns of that dilemma due to it's own historic abuses in relation to this matter.
 



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