Farhad Moshiri

[bizzaro]

I was just reading somewhere the other day about how China want to become a world football power in the next 20 years. This was the reasoning behind why they have bought into Man City and Atletico. I believe these were purchases backed by the state. So possibly this would be the way out for Usmanov as the Chinese are not interested in running clubs but want to learn more of the inner workings of the biggest clubs in Europe by owning parts of them. Not saying this would happen but possibly one of the only ways out that Usmanov has if he actually does want to sell his block.

Have you just copied my post from this morning as it is nearly word for word what I wrote?

@bizzaro mused about this a week or so ago as well.

Actually lads.

I was here first. May 29th 2016

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/farhad-moshirì.85442/page-772#post-4537167

@MoutsGoat FFP

 

[bizzaro]

Not quite.

His holding company BHH in the I.o.M owns the right to acquire the shares on his behalf. If other investors were to come in alongside Moshiri I'm pretty certain they would acquire shares in the holding company not Everton directly (similar as to how R&W Holdings was constructed for Moshiri and Usmanov to hold their Arsenal shares).

It's not certain though that other investors are going to join him, nor is it certain it is necessary.

I think it is Esk.

His 2012 open letter at Arsenal intimates this is his favoured model for stadia funding.

Wether this is before or after the initial funding is open to debate.

However it is a valid a priori statement of fact.

We will be able to eludicate it further when the business plan on the stadium goes public. Then we can make a posterori statements. Based on his behaviour.

 

[tommye]

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[Parkender]

What was his 2012 letter about?

 

[Boss_Blue]

I think it is Esk.

His 2012 open letter at Arsenal intimates this is his favoured model for stadia funding.

Wether this is before or after the initial funding is open to debate.

However it is a valid a priori statement of fact.

We will be able to eludicate it further when the business plan on the stadium goes public. Then we can make a posterori statements. Based on his behaviour.

LOL

 

[bizzaro]

What was his 2012 letter about?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/18725835

The real conflict seems to be between the supporters' expectations and your vision for the Club and at the heart of this is the policy of so-called self-financing. The self-financing model was created to suit the major shareholders at the time, all of whom subsequently sold their shares.

The previous decision by the Board to fund the building of the Emirates Stadium with long-term debt was, we believe, certainly not about self-financing. If it had been, it would have been funded through a mixture of debt and non-dividend equity. Instead it allowed, in our view, the major shareholders of the time, who happened to all be Board directors, to load the Club with a liability, to benefit from increased future revenue streams and consequent increase in the value of their holdings, whilst avoiding dilution of their equity. The Board of the time then appeared to pursue a policy of increasing ticket prices and squeezing the fans to cover the short term cost increases which allowed them to bridge until all of these shareholders and Board directors sold 100% of their holdings and cashed out at vast profits.
...
As a consequence of this policy, which is dressed up as prudent financial planning, it is down to our manager, and not the shareholders, to have to deal with the Club's tight finances, carry the burden of repaying the stadium debt by selling his best players and having to continue to find cheaper replacements. All of that, naturally, comes at the expense of performance on the pitch.

This policy is leading to the loss of our best players, often to our main competitors, and even causes the players themselves to question their future at the Club and the Club's ambitions.
...
So what is Red & White's vision for the Club? It is simple. A debt free Club, with a big enough war chest to buy top talent players who can hit the ground running and who can complement the Club's long tradition of developing young players and homegrown talent. Together they can help the Club win the most prestigious trophies - because it is the trophies which are the crowning achievement for everybody at the Club. The trophies are also key to the commercial success of the Club - they increase the value of the players, the value of the brand, attract the best sponsors and maximize the value of our commercial contracts which should in turn mean that the Club does not have to squeeze any more income from hard pressed fans. We also believe in the transparency that a stock market listing brings so are committed to the Club remaining listed on the stock exchange and to greater fan involvement both through share ownership and also Board representation for the fans.
...

 

[arch stanton]

Moshiri clearly knows that there is not a thing like 'splashing money into a club'. If you are a clever investor, you are doing an investment. Similarly as Abramovich/Mansour did. You buy players = investment - higher quaility of team and you can resell them, they can inivte more sponsors too. You build stadium = investment - it brings extra revenues. You buy training field = investment... In other words - if we buy reasonoble players with a use of outside resources for 100m, the price of our club likely goes up for around 100m. If Moshiri's builds us a new stadium for his own money, the price he could get for this club likely goes up for around that type of money he invests into it as well. And so on. And it is like money invite another money. If he invests into us, other people or companies are way more likely to invest into us/sponsor us. If you do things in a clever way, investing into a football club big money can lead into even a bigger profit, especially in today's huge PL TV money era. Even Abramovich did a superb investment with Chelsea. Abramovich throwed to Chelsea something like 1000m. But nowdays he could likely get more than these 1000m he throwed there back if he has decided to sell his club. At least according to a few financial researches the prices of the biggest football clubs are skyrocketing up massively. And as I think Moshiri looks like a really clever investor, I think he may easily decide to splash quite a big percentage of his wealth into this club. If he is doing things in a clever way, Everton can potentially get him a big profit.

i was just going to type something very similar, basically money attracts money, either from other investors or banks. As the owner has loads of cash and can bail out the club if it went titsup, anyone else putting some of their millions in on the club/investment is putting into a safer option if there is plenty of cash in the club. Mosh isnt daft, he'llbe getting other investors onboard in some form or other very soon so he is hedging his investment

 

[bizzaro]

i was just going to type something very similar, basically money attracts money, either from other investors or banks. As the owner has loads of cash and can bail out the club if it went titsup, anyone else putting some of their millions in on the club/investment is putting into a safer option if there is plenty of cash in the club. Mosh isnt daft, he'llbe getting other investors onboard in some form or other very soon so he is hedging his investment

Money does attract money.

It's true. It's called 'hub economics'

We just have to remain disciplined.

Having money does not mean being stupid with it.

 

[bizzaro]

Incase anyone starts desputing it.

EVERTON are the hub.

Commercial revenue spins around us like spokes on a wheel.

Hub:
"the central part of a wheel, as that part into which the spokes are inserted. the central part or axle end from which blades or spokelike parts radiate on various devices, as on a fan or propeller. the Hub, Boston, Mass. (used as a nickname)."


It starts with capital investment into the club. Infrastructure and players.

Asset value generally follows if properly managed.

 

[Jb90efc]

Actually lads.

I was here first. May 29th 2016

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/farhad-moshirì.85442/page-772#post-4537167

@MoutsGoat FFP

I wasn't trying to lay claim to the theory it was just funny when I read the post as it was nearly word for word what I had wrote.

 

[brieverton]

Would still think we need additional high net-worth investors to compete at the very top. By that I mean sustained, year-in, year-out challenging for the league title etc.

I like the style of Moshiri, he seems very understated, hopefully with the iron will to make us succeed.

Wonder are there are parallels though with Manchester City first being bought by Shinawatra before their subsequent huge takeover?

Only today Erik Thohir sold his majority stake in Inter Milan to Chinese investors.

It is true that money attracts money.

There is plenty of money in the former Soviet republics - oil / mineral wealth etc in Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, etc. Countries where Moshiri would surely have plenty of contacts and interested parties.

Moshiri remaining as principal shareholder whilst attracting such investment would be the absolute apex for Everton as I see things.

 

[bizzaro]

I wasn't trying to lay claim to the theory it was just funny when I read the post as it was nearly word for word what I had wrote.

I've laid claim to it though mate. Like FFP. Aston Villa going boom! Etc.

 

[Jb90efc]

I've laid claim to it though mate. Like FFP. Aston Villa going boom! Etc.

Alright mate, I don't want you to lose any sleep over it!

 

[Goat]

Alright mate, I don't want you to lose any sleep over it!

He knows didly.

 

[TheHumbleEgg]

I've laid claim to it though mate. Like FFP. Aston Villa going boom! Etc.

...did you plant a flag?

No flag, no claim...