billytoffee
Player Valuation: £20m
I'm sure that none of this will come as a shock to any blue - but thought it worth sharing with you all anyway.
I was one of those that lodged a formal complaint about Cretinberg to the FA - my complaint read:-
I like many others was appalled by the inept performance of the referee during the latest Merseyside Derby. We have since had a number of days with lots of media speculation regarding the matter and lots of specualtion as to if the offending referee witll be held responsible in any way for his shocking performance. One of the more disappointing aspects of this whole sorry affair is that neither the FA nor the organisation that professes to manage the professional Referees have seen fit to publicly engage with this issue. Will the FA be investigating this inept performance ? What powers are available to the FA to put in place aome sort of punishment for such a poor refereeing performance ? Will the FA be investigationg the Liverpool Managers ridiculous accusations that an Everton player dived when the inept referee failed to award a penalty ? Does the FA feel that by not getting involved thus far that they are letting things calm down and go away or that they are letting the anger fester and build the tension between Liverpool and Everton fans ? Regards billytoffee
Their crap response that never even bothered to try and answer some of the questions I posed:-
Dear Mr billytoffee
I write in reference to your e-mail concerning the Everton vs Liverpool fixture on Saturday 20 October 2007.
The Football Association receives frequent correspondence on individual refereeing decisions across all levels of football as well as on the performance of referees in general. Every supporter will have an opinion on the game’s major talking points and we’re always interested to hear them.
Tony Hibbert’s red card
Some supporters have suggested that Liverpool’s Steven Gerrard influenced the decision to send Everton’s Tony Hibbert from the field of play. All decisions on the field of play are made by the referee and regardless of the context it is not for players to influence or advise the referee on a decision.
Select Group referees’ performances are assessed by the Professional Game Match Officials (PGMO) and appointments made accordingly (see below).
Dirk Kuyt’s challenge on Phil Neville
As supporters will be aware Liverpool’s Dirk Kuyt was booked for the challenge in question. FIFA guidelines aimed at avoiding the “re-refereeing” of matches generally prevent The FA from taking disciplinary action on incidents which are seen and dealt with at the time by the match officials (this includes taking no action). As a general rule, if the match officials see an incident and have jurisdiction to take action, The FA cannot act retrospectively. These guidelines prevent The FA from upgrading/downgrading yellow and red cards based on retrospective advice provided by the match referee.
Everton FC penalty appeals
Whether a penalty is awarded or not is a decision of the referee guided by assistance from the assistant referee. They are required to make a split second decisions based on what they see. This is subsequently analysed repeatedly by slow motion cameras and panels of football experts. Ultimately, football is a tremendously popular and successful game played worldwide under the fundamental principle that ‘the referee’s decision is final’.
Refereeing has been restructured with the aim of continued improvement of the overall standard of refereeing in the professional game. This sees match officials categorised into two groups with the Select Group officiating in the Premier League.
The Select Group is the responsibility of Keith Hackett, General Manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL). Premier League refereeing enquiries should be addressed to Keith Hackett, The Premier League, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL or via info@premierleague.com.
There is a system in place for monitoring the performance of referees and referee's assistants. This involves referees assessors and reports from club managers. All assessors come from a footballing background and the majority are fully qualified referees themselves. The performances of referees over a season are then taken into consideration when the leagues appoint their referees for the following season.
Whilst we can understand the frustration that comes with decisions going against your team The FA are confident that the disciplinary procedures off the pitch as well as the referees on the pitch uphold the Laws of the Game without bias to player or club.
We do appreciate all of the feedback we receive from supporters. This feedback is collated and used to build a picture of public opinion and is subsequently fed back internally within the organisation. Please rest assured your comments will form part of this feedback process.
Kind regards,
Alex Howells | Customer Relations Officer
The Football Association
25 Soho Square | London | W1D 4FA
T +44 (0) 20 7745 4545
www.TheFA.com
I was one of those that lodged a formal complaint about Cretinberg to the FA - my complaint read:-
I like many others was appalled by the inept performance of the referee during the latest Merseyside Derby. We have since had a number of days with lots of media speculation regarding the matter and lots of specualtion as to if the offending referee witll be held responsible in any way for his shocking performance. One of the more disappointing aspects of this whole sorry affair is that neither the FA nor the organisation that professes to manage the professional Referees have seen fit to publicly engage with this issue. Will the FA be investigating this inept performance ? What powers are available to the FA to put in place aome sort of punishment for such a poor refereeing performance ? Will the FA be investigationg the Liverpool Managers ridiculous accusations that an Everton player dived when the inept referee failed to award a penalty ? Does the FA feel that by not getting involved thus far that they are letting things calm down and go away or that they are letting the anger fester and build the tension between Liverpool and Everton fans ? Regards billytoffee
Their crap response that never even bothered to try and answer some of the questions I posed:-
Dear Mr billytoffee
I write in reference to your e-mail concerning the Everton vs Liverpool fixture on Saturday 20 October 2007.
The Football Association receives frequent correspondence on individual refereeing decisions across all levels of football as well as on the performance of referees in general. Every supporter will have an opinion on the game’s major talking points and we’re always interested to hear them.
Tony Hibbert’s red card
Some supporters have suggested that Liverpool’s Steven Gerrard influenced the decision to send Everton’s Tony Hibbert from the field of play. All decisions on the field of play are made by the referee and regardless of the context it is not for players to influence or advise the referee on a decision.
Select Group referees’ performances are assessed by the Professional Game Match Officials (PGMO) and appointments made accordingly (see below).
Dirk Kuyt’s challenge on Phil Neville
As supporters will be aware Liverpool’s Dirk Kuyt was booked for the challenge in question. FIFA guidelines aimed at avoiding the “re-refereeing” of matches generally prevent The FA from taking disciplinary action on incidents which are seen and dealt with at the time by the match officials (this includes taking no action). As a general rule, if the match officials see an incident and have jurisdiction to take action, The FA cannot act retrospectively. These guidelines prevent The FA from upgrading/downgrading yellow and red cards based on retrospective advice provided by the match referee.
Everton FC penalty appeals
Whether a penalty is awarded or not is a decision of the referee guided by assistance from the assistant referee. They are required to make a split second decisions based on what they see. This is subsequently analysed repeatedly by slow motion cameras and panels of football experts. Ultimately, football is a tremendously popular and successful game played worldwide under the fundamental principle that ‘the referee’s decision is final’.
Refereeing has been restructured with the aim of continued improvement of the overall standard of refereeing in the professional game. This sees match officials categorised into two groups with the Select Group officiating in the Premier League.
The Select Group is the responsibility of Keith Hackett, General Manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL). Premier League refereeing enquiries should be addressed to Keith Hackett, The Premier League, 30 Gloucester Place, London W1U 8PL or via info@premierleague.com.
There is a system in place for monitoring the performance of referees and referee's assistants. This involves referees assessors and reports from club managers. All assessors come from a footballing background and the majority are fully qualified referees themselves. The performances of referees over a season are then taken into consideration when the leagues appoint their referees for the following season.
Whilst we can understand the frustration that comes with decisions going against your team The FA are confident that the disciplinary procedures off the pitch as well as the referees on the pitch uphold the Laws of the Game without bias to player or club.
We do appreciate all of the feedback we receive from supporters. This feedback is collated and used to build a picture of public opinion and is subsequently fed back internally within the organisation. Please rest assured your comments will form part of this feedback process.
Kind regards,
Alex Howells | Customer Relations Officer
The Football Association
25 Soho Square | London | W1D 4FA
T +44 (0) 20 7745 4545
www.TheFA.com
