Ex Everton Academy prospects

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johnnydawg68

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I always like to keep tabs on the Blues who didn't quite make it right out of the academy...as we've seen with Baines and Jags, that doesn't mean they don't have a future at the highest level. Hell, do you think Sheffield Wednesday wishes they hadn't let Jamie Vardy go because he was "too small"?

So anyway, to start things off...really interesting article on former hot prospect John Lundstram. Really thought this kid was going to break through, but apparently Bobby didn't rate him. Glad to see him rebuilding his career. I just hope if he becomes the player we thought he would be, that we can get him back like Baines and Jags.
 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jan/09/john-lundstram-oxford-united-swansea-fa-cup-everton

England’s lost boy John Lundstram back to his best at ambitious Oxford
After loan spells from Everton the midfielder is pleased to have found a proper home and finally to feel part of a team as his side face Swansea in the FA Cup


John Lundstram is revelling in playing for Oxford after long spells on loan from Everton and his side are flying high before their FA Cup clash with Swansea. Photograph: Antonio Olmos for the Observer


Paul Doyle

@Paul_Doyle
Saturday 9 January 2016 17.46 ESTLast modified on Monday 4 April 201607.25 EDT

In the summer of 2013 John Lundstram started England’s opening match at the Under-20 World Cup alongside Ross Barkley, Harry Kane and Eric Dier, with John Stones on the bench. Last Sunday, while the other four players contested the Premier League match between Everton and Tottenham Hotspur, Lundstram was pursuing his football education at Oxford United, having turned down a new contract at Everton in the summer. “It was the best decision I ever made,” says the 21-year-old midfielder who aims to show on Sunday, when Oxford host Swansea City in the third round of the FA Cup, that he has what it takes to graduate back to the elite.

Lundstram was nominated for the League Two player-of-the-month award for December and feels that his career is finally taking flight. It is doing so partially because he has learned to exert more control over the direction he takes.

In 2013 he went to the World Cup on the back of impressive performances as a loanee at Doncaster Rovers, whom he helped to the League One title, and with high hopes of breaking into the Everton first team. But that was also the summer in which Roberto Martínez arrived at Goodison Park to replace David Moyes, under whom Lundstram had seemed poised to make a breakthrough.

“When David Moyes was at Everton I was in the squad and with the first team and doing really well but as soon as he left it just wasn’t the same for me,” says Lundstram without bitterness. “It’s a game of opinions and I wasn’t involved in the first team as much as I’d have liked under Martínez. I was meant to go on a pre-season tour with the first team when I came back from Doncaster and then, a couple of days before that, I got taken off the squad list to go and I was never told why. That knocked my confidence a bit and little things like that set me back a bit. Then I had to go on loan to Yeovil.”

Yeovil were bottom of the Championship and their style did not suit a player whose main quality is his expansive passing. “It wasn’t the right club because we never had the ball,” he says, raising an issue that affects many young players’ development: in three years as a professional at Everton he went to five different clubs on loan and wishes he had been more assertive about his moves. “If I had my time again, I’d have more say in where I went and would say ‘no’ to some things. But I was just trying to please the manager and saying ‘yes, yes, yes’ all the time.”

When his contract expired at Goodison last summer Everton offered him a six-month deal but this time he did say no. “I didn’t feel it was worth wasting any more time, so I just wanted to get out there and start playing first-team football regularly – and not on loan for once. It definitely makes a difference being permanent. You just feel much more part of things.”

Lundstram is certainly a crucial part of an Oxford team that stands third in League Two. Liam Sercombe and Kemar Roofe tend to score the goals but Lundstram usually conducts the attacking. “I just want to get on the ball as much as I can,” he says.


That is a common aim throughout the team, which is why Swansea are fitting opponents: since being taken over by the businessman Darryl Eales in 2014, Oxford have made no secret of their ambition to emulate the Welsh club by ascending from the bottom league to the top while playing a slick, possession-based style. “There are a couple more teams in League Two who also want to play that way but I believe we’re the best at it,” says Lundstram.

Promotion is this season’s main aim and, since Oxford do not have an enormous squad, it will be a challenge to continue competing on all fronts. Indeed, they go into the Swansea game with their manager, Michael Appleton, grappling with the difficult issue of whether to rest players for Thursday’s first leg of the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy area final against Millwall – victory in that tie would secure a rare Wembley appearance for Oxford.

“It’s well documented how important the promotion push is but all the lads want to get to Wembley as well so the JPT is massive for us,” says Lundstram, who adds that the Swansea match is “a no-pressure game really”. It is, however, a match in which the players yearn to make a statement.

“A lot of the lads here are good enough to play at the highest level and I think everyone’s mindset is we’re going to go out and prove how good we all are,” says Lundstram. In a season in which Jamie Vardy and Dele Alli have shown that real talent can be found in the lower leagues, Oxford want to provide further evidence. “With all the money involved in the Premier League it’s tough for a young English lad to come in but there are definitely some gems in the Football League who could play at the top,” says Lundstram. “It’s just about getting the chance.”

On Sunday Lundstram and his team-mates have a chance to make their point. Mind you, while watching the draw Lundstram hoped he would be given an opportunity to make it against someone else: “I was clutching the couch hoping for it to be Everton and then I definitely would have had something to prove,” he says with a benign laugh. “But this is a great tie – and, if we get through, I’ll be begging for Everton.”
 
http://toffeeweb.com/players/past/academy/

This is a good link.

Most disappear and never make any type of living from the game. However ones working the way back up are:
Adam Davies (Barnsley goalkeeper)
Ben Heneghan (Chester but Championship clubs after him)
Jake Bidwell (Brentford)

Plus the likes of Eunan O'Kane (Bournemouth) and Adam Forshaw (Boro) who have made it all the way back to the top flight.

Then Mustafi (World cup winner) and Dier (England international) who were with us as youths.

Crazy to think that we have had Stones, Dier and Mustafi on our books and were very close to signing Kostas Manolas as well. Probably 4 of the highest rated young defenders in football at the moment.
 
http://toffeeweb.com/players/past/academy/

This is a good link.

Most disappear and never make any type of living from the game. However ones working the way back up are:
Adam Davies (Barnsley goalkeeper)
Ben Heneghan (Chester but Championship clubs after him)
Jake Bidwell (Brentford)

Plus the likes of Eunan O'Kane (Bournemouth) and Adam Forshaw (Boro) who have made it all the way back to the top flight.

Then Mustafi (World cup winner) and Dier (England international) who were with us as youths.

Crazy to think that we have had Stones, Dier and Mustafi on our books and were very close to signing Kostas Manolas as well. Probably 4 of the highest rated young defenders in football at the moment.

....to be fair, Dier wasn't released. I understand he chose not to stay and has done very well for himself.
 

....to be fair, Dier wasn't released. I understand he chose not to stay and has done very well for himself.

We only had him on loan, we couldn't afford the permanent deal for a player who wouldn't be in the first team. Spurs just threw money at it and in fairness it's only this season after a positional change that he's come good.
 
Yeah, just keeping on tabs on them. Someone like Forshaw is a great example that just because you don't make it Everton when you're 18, doesn't mean you are done.
Tbh apart from mustafi, none of them have set the world on fire, certainly nowhere near the quality o the prem
 

Adam Eaton, older folk may remember him has part of our youth cup side of 90s. Cracking left back, now selling mortgages after injuries ended his career in his 20s
 

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