I would love to hear those conversations. You’d have thought after the Newcastle game there were some very strong conversations had but then to go and do it all again against Fulham is just not on. I do wonder if the modern day footballer is spared the hammering that they would’ve got 15 years ago a bit too much maybe? You can’t imagine a Moyes side showing that little fight in games so close to each other.When the players and management look back over the videos of the Fulham and Newcastle games they must be mortified of how bad they'd perform. I wonder how is taking ownership of those calamities?