Everton : Its the name.....

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tbh, Everton were always a huge team. The fact Moshiri got on board is wonderful but wont change the fact they were a big side anyway. Clearly Moshiri knew what cloth Everton are from, the finest silk nonetheless.
Eric. We knew that, most had forgotten outside of our fanbase. Without a pile of cash he would not have come here. Z-Cars means nothing to him.
 
tbh, Everton were always a huge team. The fact Moshiri got on board is wonderful but wont change the fact they were a big side anyway. Clearly Moshiri knew what cloth Everton are from, the finest silk nonetheless.
Big team is not static. Wolves used to be massive, what about now?
 
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Is that their new Stadium?
 

It's the net result of a systematic devaluation of our status under Moyes (knife to a gunfight, top ten is great for a club like Everton etc. etc.) and the woeful underachievement of Martinez in the last two years.

Sky have taught football fans that only their narrative and the present day matters, and this 'debate' proves as such, as the question 'Are Everton a bigger club than Southampton' should be answered, without hesitation, 'of course they are you idiot, why even ask?'

Even at our very worst in the 90s, we were always seen as a massive club doing really badly. Nowadays, we're seen as 'plucky little Everton', and it's more surprising when we do well.

This degrading of status is the reason I simply don't accept failure at Everton. When Martinez was obviously not the man for the job, the counter argument on here was 'who could we get to replace him though?' - like we couldn't possibly do better than him. My answer to that - 'why the hell wouldn't we replace him? We should never tolerate failure. We're Everton.'
 
Not eligible unless we get relegated to League 1 or 2

The Associate Members Cup/Football League Trophy or the version sponsored by Johnstones Paints is for tier 3 & 4 clubs.

We use to play in and got to the final in the other version for Division 1 & 2 clubs in them days which was the Full Members / Simod cup
 

Jeebus could we not just let it lie?

Who actually gives one?

Every supporter thinks their club is better and uses whatever opinion to do it. Don't join in.

well, we need to draw the line sometimes on these discussions.

Southampton are clearly not as big a club as Everton, anyone who knows anything about football will say so.
 
It's the net result of a systematic devaluation of our status under Moyes (knife to a gunfight, top ten is great for a club like Everton etc. etc.) and the woeful underachievement of Martinez in the last two years.

Even at our very worst in the 90s, we were always seen as a massive club doing really badly. Nowadays, we're seen as 'plucky little Everton', and it's more surprising when we do well


Spot on.

Everton were regarded as a "sleeping giant" until somewhere around the early years of the first decade of this century when the height of Moyes's ambition was to win the Forty Points Cup and then make sure no major mishaps occurred to dent his own image as being too good a manager to be stuck at Everton, awaiting the day he answered the calling he was "chosen" for.
 

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