Everton: ground share idea builds on interwoven past

[New-Ground]

We have no money to do the above though - at the moment.

The amount of times I have heard that one. Neither did MK Dons, who are in the running to stage the world cup. They were in administration when they built their stadium. No club has the full amount in their back pockets. They form partners, borrow, etc, as that is how business works.

 

[Goat]

MONORAIL

 

[New-Ground]

Its a well written piece, but for a city like Liverpool not to be able to have two world class stadiums and two world class sides.

Heres some facts I just learnt from Wiki.

Liverpool used to be called 'Europe's New York'
Liverpool's wealth exceeded London's
Liverpool was also the site of the UK's first provincial airport, operating from 1930.
By the start of the 19th century, 40% of the world's trade was passing through Liverpool and the construction of major buildings reflected this wealth.
Ferries, Transatlantic Steamships, Railways and municipal trams were all pioneered in Liverpool.
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WTF happened Liverpool?

Thatcher, as been said, put the dig in.

You only scratched the surface. Liverpool was very innovative. A pity this is now lost on the population, who scream ant anything new or different.

Liverpool was the most innovative city in rail alone. Liverpool has more railway first than any other city. The father of railways. Ask the average man in Church St and he will blankly look at you.

Merseyrail is the second oldest urban, underground, railway in the world, however sections of the network are quite historic being the oldest of any urban railway in the world. Merseyrail is in effect older than London Underground.

1. The first underground section of Merseyrail with stations originated in 1886 - Mersey Railway, the world's second underground rail network.
2. The world's first deep-level underground railway - 1886. The platforms of Hamilton Square are over 100 feet below the surface. Only elevators could reach the platforms.
3. The first underground stations bored out of solid rock.
4. The oldest currently electrified section dates from 1848, from Kirkdale to near the old Exchange Station, now a part of the Northern Line. The oldest of any electrified metro network in the world.
5. The oldest diesel section dates from 1830, being a part of the original Liverpool-Manchester Passenger railway, now a part of the City Line. The oldest part of any urban railway in the world.
6. The world's oldest used railway station, Broad Green, dating from 1830, is on the Merseyrail network.
7. Merseyrail runs through the worlds oldest used tunnel at Edge Hill station - 1836.
8. Liverpool Overhead was the first designed from the outset as an electric urban railway.
9. Liverpool Overhead was the first railway in the world to be multi-level. Passengers on top and freight under.
10. Liverpool Overhead was the first to use light-rail trains.
11. Liverpool Overhead was the first to use Electric Multiple Unit trains (EMUs). No locomotive used as the motors are under the passenger cars. It is the model used world-wide today.
12. Liverpool Overhead was the first to use EMUs underground at Dingle.
13. Liverpool Overhead was the first to use electric light signals.
14. Liverpool Overhead was the first to use auto signalling.
15. Liverpool Overhead was the first to use an escalator.
16. Liverpool, the first inter-city railway - to Manchester. The model used today world-wide.
17. Liverpool's 1829 1.26 mile long Wapping Tunnel was the first bored under a metropolis. (could be re-used again and it would be the oldest underground section of any railway).
18. Liverpool built the world's first goods station at Park Lane - Kings Dock. Accessed by a 1.26 mile long tunnel.
19. Liverpool built the world's first rail junction/goods yard at Edge Hill
20. Liverpool built the first ocean liner/rail terminal - Riverside station. accessed by a 2.1 mile tunnel.

Liverpool had abandoned two rail stations by the time London built its first station.

We hide our past we despise our past. We are not educated about our past.

It’s difficult not to conclude that, in its relentless post-war economic decline, Liverpool became consumed by a hatred of its own past - Dr Gavin Stamp 2007​

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

good to see this thread went off the rails to get on track.


so who are you 'new ground' ?

btw you forgot to mention that Liverpool had the first station in the country with bog roll and shoite lying between the tracks, prompting the rule of no flushing whilst stationary

 

[New-Ground]

Well researched, McBain but that doesn't mention the MerseyBeat era. Was it Timothy Leary who said something like: "Right now, Liverpool appears to be the centre of the universe..." That was as recent as the sixties...

What was going on in the the early 1960s in Liverpool was the same as what was happening in New Orleans in the early 1900s, except it was rock music not jazz.

Bill Harry, a journo who founded the Mersey Beat music paper, was firm in that London sabotaged Liverpool. In those day Liverpool's music scene had no Phil Redmond, otherwise Liverpool would be like a Memphis with a full blown music business in the city, with recording companies set up, inspiring and attracting the talented people from all over. Not all those involved in the Merseysound were Liverpudlians. There was a smattering of others based in Liverpool.