ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

dandydan · March 30, 2016

bluesince68 said:
The pissing contest of my owner is richer than yours is dead

Now that Evertons dad is bigger than your dad?

Fearthainn · March 30, 2016

Any chance you could post that on RAWK mate, it's making my head hurt but they're all experts on this sort of stuff over there.

Not suggesting you're a kopite or anything, I did have my doubts but your username includes the word "blue" so that's proof that you're one of us.

silent bob · March 30, 2016

ste d' indica said:
Got one in the pub as we speak. Absolutely clueless. Is telling his mates he'd be quite happy to play a weakened side on Saturday so they can concentrate on winning the Europa League... because they are clearly favourites, I quote: "I just can't see anyone else winning it" lol

What does his carer think?

dandydan · March 30, 2016

Fearthainn said:
Any chance you could post that on RAWK mate, it's making my head hurt but they're all experts on this sort of stuff over there.

Not suggesting you're a kopite or anything, I did have my doubts but your username includes the word "blue" so that's proof that you're one of us.

Are you suggesting the use of the word blue might be a cunning subterfuge?

ste d' indica · March 30, 2016

silent bob said:
What does his carer think?

He's gone well beyond that mate. Talks with an Australian accent, then it turns out he's from Wiltshire and has only been in Oz for a few years. Still "supports England in the footy though mate" and is convinced they're favourites for the Euros based on them beating Germany on Saturday... He'd forgotten about them winning the world cup. Absolutely baffling creature.

ste d' indica · March 30, 2016

bluesince68 said:
Do owners of major clubs really spend their own money though in this day and age in football,City even though they have a owner worth 20 billion pounds, they are spending within their means now through turnover,yes its boosted by AbuDhabi commercial deals and stadium expansion but you can be sure Shiekh Mansour isn't dipping into his own pocket funding their annual huge summer sprees like the 1st few years of ownership.Same with Chelsea,Abramovich hasn't dipped into his own pocket in years according to journos,they are spending through their means in the turnover as he has changed the club from relying on him for funds to the club being self sufficient.Since FFP has been born clubs have a remit now to spend within their own means,PSG and City were fined 45 million euros ( was reduced to 15 million each after appeal) each 2 season ago for breaching that by not spending within their means (outside cash influx both clubs did in 2013 summer spree) and breaking an FFP rules.

The pissing contest of my owner is richer than yours is dead,it's all about growing turnover that equates to more spending power,the way to get ahead in football now is to expand Commercially,match day revenue,merchandise and tv revenues (PL and the bonus golden CL tv money),have that magic number turnover of 300-400 pounds then spending 100 million plus every summer is easily done if the turnover is in that bracket and that is why owners today who's clubs hit that mark do not have to breach FFP rules by outside influxes of cash propped up by the owners.

The benchmark team to copy in that regard is Bayern Munich,they play in a small market league that isn't quite big around the world and only get 30 million pound per year in Bundesliga tv revenues,they by definition are the biggest club by far in Germany but by size in world football the fanbase would be lucky to be in the top 10 amongst the El classico teams and about 6 PL teams and Juventus who have 80% of Italy supporting them who make the top 10.Also the matchday revenues at Bayern are not big as season ticket costs around 150 euros a year and matchday tickets are alot lot cheaper than a premier league game.The last turnover results for Bayern were 417 million pounds and their commercial revenues were £213 million pounds,the club is split into 2 with a sporting and business structure and no side interferes with the other,they are different entities working for the same goal making Bayern stronger on and off the field.I saw a interview a few months ago with Bayern Chairman Karl Heinz Ruminegger on Bloomberg tv and he went into great detail about how the club is run on and off the field.Yes beating 217 million pounds commercially is practically impossible they get the cream of german companies sponsoring them,but to narrow the gap the TV revenues dwarf bayern's with the new Tv deal coming into effect next season,but it shows getting commercial deals and building a merchandising operation to get to the 300+ magic number is feasible with the right operation.

Anyway here is a indepth look at Bayern Munich figures.

Where does that put them in the ABLT though mate?

dandydan · March 30, 2016

ste d' indica said:
He's gone well beyond that mate. Talks with an Australian accent, then it turns out he's from Wiltshire and has only been in Oz for a few years. Still "supports England in the footy though mate" and is convinced they're favourites for the Euros based on them beating Germany on Saturday... He'd forgotten about them winning the world cup. Absolutely baffling creature.

I know a couple of people from Chester who having resided in Liverpool for a short time come back speaking all " dey do dough don't dey dough" and referring to scousers as "we"

Deleted member 24970 · March 31, 2016

peteblue said:
Tbf, all of their players are world class according to them......

And you disagree ?
They are coming for you my friend, it was nice knowing you for the brief moment we met online...
(although I didn't expect you to pop up on cam wearing ladies suspenders) :blush:

Titus Bramble · March 31, 2016

ste d' indica said:
He's gone well beyond that mate. Talks with an Australian accent, then it turns out he's from Wiltshire and has only been in Oz for a few years. Still "supports England in the footy though mate" and is convinced they're favourites for the Euros based on them beating Germany on Saturday... He'd forgotten about them winning the world cup. Absolutely baffling creature.

I never realised how little some people who claim to be football fans actually know about football. During the friendly against Holland he piped up with a few interesting quotes:

"I reckon Hodgson is experimenting what team he wants to start at the Euros" NO SH!T SHERLOCK
"I don't see the point in John Stones... DO SOMETHING" He said this about 3 seconds before he started the move for the England goal
"I think Milner should play in the same position Gerrard used to, he'd be a great quarterback" No mate

There were more but I zoned out to his dross

Steve0 · March 31, 2016

bluesince68 said:
And go back to the manager (Pep) who has given him 5 starts this season.

Doesn't make sense.

From what they're being targetted with lately and bought so far (Matip and Grujic for a combined 6 million,one on a bosman) it looks like they have a plan in place for the players they are signing,no surprise the disjointed fragmented buying policy of the last few years came under British managers.

I see them being a perennial Champions league team under Klopp like the days of Benitez,who also bought players for a rigid system and never deviated from that,it brings continuity and cohesion in a team that becomes consistant every year.

The closest you came to winning the league was when you had a British manager lol.

It was also a British manager who bought Suarez.

Goetze isn't that great but if you do get him he could work well with pato and teixeira. That's the thing kppites aren't grasping, they aren't a big draw anymore.

Now there's city, United, Chelsea, arsenal, West Ham, Spurs and ourselves who can outspend them they are in for several barren seasons and no amount of £77 tickets will change that.

Matip is even worse than sahko btw.

ste d' indica · March 31, 2016

Titus Bramble said:
I never realised how little some people who claim to be football fans actually know about football. During the friendly against Holland he piped up with a few interesting quotes:

"I reckon Hodgson is experimenting what team he wants to start at the Euros" NO SH!T SHERLOCK
"I don't see the point in John Stones... DO SOMETHING" He said this about 3 seconds before he started the move for the England goal
"I think Milner should play in the same position Gerrard used to, he'd be a great quarterback" No mate

There were more but I zoned out to his dross

Anyone using the word quarterback in relation to football needs an automatic shoein'.

Jokerdan · March 31, 2016

dandydan said:
I know a couple of people from Chester who having resided in Liverpool for a short time come back speaking all " dey do dough don't dey dough" and referring to scousers as "we"

A lad I knew - an RS fan - went off working on the building sites in Germany in the early 80's for a couple of years. Came back with a Scouse accent which, given the nearest he had ever been to Liverpool (never mind Analfield) in his life was passing through Wigan on the train, was something else. Mind you I have my suspicions he may actually have been residing in Walton nick and not working abroad.

nsno-chris · March 31, 2016

bluesince68 said:
And go back to the manager (Pep) who has given him 5 starts this season.

Doesn't make sense.

From what they're being targetted with lately and bought so far (Matip and Grujic for a combined 6 million,one on a bosman) it looks like they have a plan in place for the players they are signing,no surprise the disjointed fragmented buying policy of the last few years came under British managers.

I see them being a perennial Champions league team under Klopp like the days of Benitez,who also bought players for a rigid system and never deviated from that,it brings continuity and cohesion in a team that becomes consistant every year.

Hi mate,

Remember Crystanbul

LOLZ

Bye mate

Sapie88 · March 31, 2016

Lads can we lay off @bluesince68 it's obviously clear from his posting history and the fact he has blue in his name that he isn't a red.

HE'S A MASSIVE KOPITE!!!

ste d' indica · March 31, 2016

Sapie88 said:
Lads can we lay off @bluesince68 it's obviously clear from his posting history and the fact he has blue in his name that he isn't a red.

It's a sad state of affairs isn't it mate? We should welcome posters with such an intricate knowledge of our rivals, and the German league, not make wild assumptions about his true allegiance.

HE'S REDDER THAN A BABOON'S ARSE!!!