ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC"

flibbyflob · September 23, 2015

Shibbywiggles said:
Yeah I obviously prefer Neville, especially when he pipes Carra down when he wants to talk about the RS but he's way better than most of the tosh on TV which stunned me as I expected him to be full of S.

I expected him to be another annoying prat like Redknapp is but he is a lot better than that. Neville obviously a class above.

Chang Elephant · September 23, 2015

Who is doing the GOT Brodgers retrospective when the sad day comes in the next few weeks ? Just so much excellent material to go at to remember our hero with.

Dithering Dougie · September 23, 2015

I like it when Carragher gets over excited and his elocution lessons go out the window while he squeals at the camera waving his arms.

davek · September 23, 2015

catcherintherye said:
I imagine they have sounded him out. Much like I'm convinced they sounded out Klopp last summer, got told no, and then Rodgers got his "backing".

I could only imagine Ancelotti taking the job if he's given huge money. I really can't see FSG doing that as they look increasingly bereft of interest in Liverpool and it isn't in their business plan to pay huge wages to established figures.
He wouldn't suit them at all either. Ancelotti is an effective manager of top internationals and able to get the bets out of the tactically. Liverpool have no top players. He is not interested in developing players as they want.
I was more worried about Klopp going there. He is a bit more of a maverick and might have bought into their fairytales. He also took a similar club like Dortmund to the pinnacle of European football so that was a bit of a worry for me.

De Boer is an interesting shout. I think he'd do ok there. I could see them going for Monk to be quite honest, it fits with the wider appointments of the last 2/3 managers, Rodgers, Hodgson, Dalglish.
I think they are losing interest though. Season after season of missing out on the champions league must be badly affecting their brand. They obviously thought they were getting a club the size of Real Madrid or Manchester United that just needed a bit of fine tuning before it was a super power. They've been lumbered with a middle ranking side who's past glories lie 30 years ago and a fanbase who are completely delusional.

This summer told you everything you needed to know about FSG. The fact they kept the manager, and crucially gave him just enough rope to hang himself, while not giving him anywhere near enough to challenge the top clubs. The club needs major overhaul and they signed up to slight tinkering.

They are a club in crisis now unable to reconcile their drop in fortunes. The crisis will only get deeper as time goes by.

The biggest nightmare is that FSG leave in the next few years and sell up to a City-type of buyer. It's game over if that happens.

One thing that could cut across that scenario is the PL losing a place in the CL. That could severely dent interest in LFC.

As for Rodgers: he's almost certainly gone right now. His successor will be getting lined up, but it wont be a top drawer manager for the reasons you outline. Monk? Maybe. But that sounds Rodgers-esque to me and one that wont go down well with the cult. I reckon a manager with CL experience but at a second tier Euro club like De Boer, Emery at Seville or even Villas Boas at Zenit.

flibbyflob · September 23, 2015

Chang Elephant said:
Who is doing the GOT Brodgers retrospective when the sad day comes in the next few weeks ? Just so much excellent material to go at to remember our hero with.

Not enough material if you ask me, need another 2 years at least I reckon.

SpurtingLesbian · September 23, 2015

davek said:
The biggest nightmare is that FSG leave in the next few years and sell up to a City-type of buyer. It's game over if that happens.

Why? they can't spend THAT much more money than they are doing now and there just aren't enough top end quality players. Just means they'll be spending even more on slightly less than top players because City/Chelsea/Barca/Real/PSG will still be winning things and the really top players will still only go there.

davek said:
As for Rodgers: he's almost certainly gone right now. His successor will be getting lined up, but it wont be a top drawer manager for the reasons you outline. Monk? Maybe. But that sounds Rodgers-esque to me and one that wont go down well with the cult. I reckon a manager with CL experience but at a second tier Euro club like De Boer, Emery at Seville or even Villas Boas at Zenit.

Surely they will do what they usually do? throw lots of money at Southampton for Koeman?

MikeH72 · September 23, 2015

SpurtingLesbian said:
Why? they can't spend THAT much more money than they are doing now and there just aren't enough top end quality players. Just means they'll be spending even more on slightly less than top players because City/Chelsea/Barca/Real/PSG will still be winning things and the really top players will still only go there.

Surely they will do what they usually do? throw lots of money at Southampton for Koeman?

Southampton are so last season. Leicester and West Ham are the current flavours of the month. Imagine if they went for Ranieri or Bilic, christ

tmgc · September 23, 2015

Yorkie said:
Might turn up early to put towels on their seats.

It'll stop the piss from damaging the seats if they do.

Yorkie · September 23, 2015

tmgc said:
It'll stop the piss from damaging the seats if they do.

A fear piss from when we bring Naismith on.

LinekersLegs · September 23, 2015

Liverpool’s Christian Benteke expected to be out for 2 weeks with injury http://t.co/fbMMePPDCE By @AHunterGuardian http://t.co/727A9Tc9lr

Christian Benteke is expected to be sidelined for a fortnight with the hamstring strain he suffered against Norwich City, putting the Liverpool striker’s availability for the forthcoming Merseyside derby in doubt.

Liverpool’s £32.5m summer signing from Aston Villa was withdrawn at half-time during Sunday’s 1-1 draw with Norwich after reporting a tight hamstring.

The 24-year-old had an MRI scan on the problem on Tuesday and is expected to require the standard two weeks to recover from a strain.

l4toffee · September 23, 2015

LinekersLegs said:
Liverpool’s Christian Benteke expected to be out for 2 weeks with injury http://t.co/fbMMePPDCE By @AHunterGuardian http://t.co/727A9Tc9lr

Christian Benteke is expected to be sidelined for a fortnight with the hamstring strain he suffered against Norwich City, putting the Liverpool striker’s availability for the forthcoming Merseyside derby in doubt.

Liverpool’s £32.5m summer signing from Aston Villa was withdrawn at half-time during Sunday’s 1-1 draw with Norwich after reporting a tight hamstring.

The 24-year-old had an MRI scan on the problem on Tuesday and is expected to require the standard two weeks to recover from a strain.

thats a shame

davek · September 23, 2015

“I felt numb, like I had lost someone in my family. It was as if my whole quarter of a century at this football club poured out of me. I did not even try to stem the silent tears as the events of the afternoon played over and over again in my head.

“In the last minute of the first half against a cagey Chelsea, set up to stop our rush to glory by José Mourinho, it happened. A simple pass rolled towards me near the halfway line. It was a nothing moment, a lull in our surge to the title. I moved to meet the ball. It slid under my foot.

“The twist came then. I slipped. I fell to the ground. The ball was swept away and the devastating Chelsea attack began. I clambered to my feet and ran with all my heart. I chased Demba Ba as though my life depended on it. I knew the outcome if I couldn’t catch him. But it was hopeless. I couldn’t stop him. Ba scored. It was over.”

In the car, his wife Alex and one of his best friends, Paul McGratten, try to console him. They try to give him hope that, maybe, Liverpool will still win the league. But Gerrard knows that his hopes have been extinguished.

“There would be no comeback for Liverpool.

“I had lived through many great moments in my career and achieved success beyond my most fevered boyhood dreams. I had played and scored in games and tournaments which belonged to another world from the Bluebell Estate in Huyton, Liverpool 36, where I had grown up. I had done things that would have shocked me as a kid.

“I had also given absolutely everything of myself to Liverpool FC: in training, in almost 700 games, off the pitch, around the squad and as part of the club, the community and the city. I could not have done any more. I had squeezed out every last ounce of ambition and desire and hope inside me. In the end, it had not been quite enough to help us win the title everyone at Liverpool craved.”

Gerrard describes his loneliness and desolation. “The Kop, and the whole of Anfield, had sung ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone’ but, in the car, I felt isolated. I felt very alone. The Liverpool anthem reminds you to hold your head up high when you walk through a storm. It reminds you not to be afraid of the dark. It reminds you to walk on through the wind and the rain, though your dreams be tossed and blown, and to walk on with hope in your heart.

“I did not feel like I had much hope left. It seemed like I was heading for suicide watch instead.”