ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

JAY24985 · September 1, 2022

derek duvall said:
lol koff. Davek is right...they were level with City when the pandemic happened. Covid helped the RS pull away.

#		P	W	D	L	Goals	Diff	Pts
1	Liverpool FC	29	27	1	1	66:21	45	82
2	Manchester City	29	19	3	7	71:31	40	60
3	Leicester City	29	16	5	8	58:28	30	53
4	Chelsea FC	29	14	6	9	51:39	12	48
5	Manchester United	29	12	9	8	44:30	14	45
6	Sheffield United	29	11	11	7	30:25	5	44

That was the table when lockdown happened (City were actually on 57 from 28 games). The league was done. Hence why so many were calling for 'null and void' before it started up again

derek duvall · September 1, 2022

JAY24985 said:
#
Team

P
W
D
L
Goals
Diff
Pts
1

Liverpool FC
29
27
1
1
66:21
45
82
2

Manchester City
29
19
3
7
71:31
40
60
3

Leicester City
29
16
5
8
58:28
30
53
4

Chelsea FC
29
14
6
9
51:39
12
48
5

Manchester United
29
12
9
8
44:30
14
45
6

Sheffield United
29
11
11
7
30:25
5
44

That was the table when lockdown happened (City were actually on 57 from 28 games). The league was done. Hence why so many were calling for 'null and void' before it started up again

Sheffield United were 6th?! This has got to be wrong surely?

The Blue Watch · September 1, 2022

JAY24985 said:
#
Team

P
W
D
L
Goals
Diff
Pts
1

Liverpool FC
29
27
1
1
66:21
45
82
2

Manchester City
29
19
3
7
71:31
40
60
3

Leicester City
29
16
5
8
58:28
30
53
4

Chelsea FC
29
14
6
9
51:39
12
48
5

Manchester United
29
12
9
8
44:30
14
45
6

Sheffield United
29
11
11
7
30:25
5
44

That was the table when lockdown happened (City were actually on 57 from 28 games). The league was done. Hence why so many were calling for 'null and void' before it started up again

Was this the real league table or the alternative league table? It gets confusing with the vast amount of league tables your lot come up with

davek · September 1, 2022

JAY24985 said:
"wouldn't have won that with stadiums full"

What are you on about? They were 25 points clear when the pandemic happened and behind closed doors footy started. They dropped something like 5 points in 30 games with stadiums full.
Hard to take anything you say seriously when you post utter bollox like that. Negates anything sensible you have to say

PITA · September 1, 2022

davek said:

He might well be a RS but he’s correct. That’s why I never get this ‘asterisk’ talk.

davek · September 1, 2022

PITA said:
He might well be a RS but he’s correct. That’s why I never get this ‘asterisk’ talk.

Of course he's wrong. Stadiums without crowds = no pressure.

Klopp's team would have capitualted in a real title race...like all Liverpool teams have done in the last 33 years.

They took advantage of a pandemic and rode their luck. End of story on that.

Black Belt Jones · September 1, 2022

PITA said:
He might well be a RS but he’s correct. That’s why I never get this ‘asterisk’ talk.

You think the covid title is the same thing as the league title? Obviously it isn't so it needs differentiating in some way and an asterisk is the appropriate mark.

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You can say they were the best team that season or whatever - had it not been for a global plague they would almost certainly have won the title.

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I don't even mind the league being charitable and pretending that they did win - that charade of continuity was perhaps important for the wider game at that time. But we have to use the right terminology.

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derek duvall · September 1, 2022

davek said:
Of course he's wrong. Stadiums without crowds = no pressure.

Klopp's team would have capitualted in a real title race...like all Liverpool teams have done in the last 33 years.

They took advantage of a pandemic and rode their luck. End of story on that.

if that table is correct. they were 22 points ahead in the league then the pandemic happened. the remaining 9 games were in empty stadiums

PITA · September 1, 2022

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davek said:
Of course he's wrong. Stadiums without crowds = no pressure.

Klopp's team would have capitualted in a real title race...like all Liverpool teams have done in the last 33 years.

They took advantage of a pandemic and rode their luck. End of story on that.

They needed 6 points from 9 games. I know and you know that they would have won it by a country mile.

Vintage · September 1, 2022

DuuuncanHadaPigeon said:
It's not even bad either, who are they actually missing that starts for them? Thiago? The ox and keita have always been injured for them.

Like you said not one mention across the media that we have two centre backs a centre mid and our only striker out injured, all probable starters.

They are rats

3 Centre backs out even. Never heard the end of it when they had their defensive injury crisis

Saint Domingo · September 1, 2022

Vintage said:
3 Centre backs out even. Never heard the end of it when they had their defensive injury crisis

But then we’d have never seen Rhys Williams and Nat Phillips doped up to the eye balls going from looking absolutely miles off the pace of PL football to suddenly being Baresi and Cannavaro for ten games then reverting back to being utter turd again.

sbbefc · September 1, 2022

Saint Domingo said:
They just don’t ever get any negative sentiment at all though. Even when they were having a rubbish season (cycling off) during covid they still managed to win loads in a row to end up in third with their keeper scoring a last minute headed winner.

Every time you think they’re on the verge of a slight bit of pressure being applied to Klopp or certain players there’s always some miracle or ridiculous decision to bail them out and they then get themselves back. When they lost the first CL final to Madrid and lost the league the season after despite being miles in front it was all fine because no worries Barca will miss a sitter for 4-0 then implode to a Liverpool B team 4-0 at Anfield and then they’ll get Spurs in a CL final and a dodgy pen in the first few minutes.

It was all the way back to Klopp’s first full season and Emre Can hitting an overhead kick outside the box to get them into the CL by the skin of their teeth. It doesn’t matter what happens to that lot they always come out of it with fireworks going off and the car horns going, every time. They should be having a load of media inquests now about what a poor start they’ve had but instead it’s all glory glory and the start of another winning run. Every time they’re in a jam they get presented with a get out of jail card. Days from administration and here’s some new owners to wipe out the debt and start spending all over again. It never ever comes home to roost for them.

Makes you sick doesn't it. Why can't they just fade away even for a season. Some kind of miracle has to be pulled off. Even that 9-0 the other day. They have their worst start for a few seasons but rather than a simple win it has to be a headline grabbing freak result.

I'd agree with some on here, I don't see them winning the league, but I definitely wouldn't rule out run of results winning a cup or two on penalties and/or VAR.