ECHO Comment: "Fears of Witch-hunt Against Liverpool FC" part 3

[BlueToff]

They were pepper spraying people that had legitimate tickets , because thousands had already forced entry with blag tickets and they were full.

The stadium refuses right to entry, even with tickets. They denied people entry because they were at capacity. People that argued the toss were sprayed.

There's literally a video of a lad standing there scanning a ticket at a turnstile that starts to open - because it's a real ticket - and he gets sprayed in the face.

If all of these blaggers had got in and the ground was full to capacity, then why was the Liverpool end mostly empty?

And those videos are from when it was still clearly light outside the Stade de France, which it would not have been at 9:30-35pm local time when the Liverpool end was finally full and the game kicked off.

 

[WilliamPerry]

Mate the vast majority of Liverpool fans turned up at 6-7pm, 2-3 hours before the game. This has been well documented.

Don't be a div

It seems Most journalists turned up at 6:30 ish after listening to a few podcasts . Your telling me all the kopites left their pints earlier than the journalists who had a ‘job’ to do ?

 

[BlueToff]

A known drug dealer was spotted and an arrest was attempted wasn’t it ?

So they tear gassed a load of people to arrest a drug dealer?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Aye so what was their excuse then? Because it's been well documented there was hardly any trouble.

The French government are lying about the amount of fake tickets. They've claimed 40,000. It doesn't add up.

It doesn't add up the rest of the events either.

There is a smoking gun in the midst of all of this and it certainly wasn't the French who decided after the Spanish were seated to put on riot gear for a laugh.

 

[Gwladys St. Glory]

thatd be twice in a week as fifa soccer or whatever it is have told them to stuff the naming rights as the costs massive.
as far as the phoney tickets go if the police have seized whatever they have they have an idea which allocation theyre from right? a ways of tracing a bit of responsibility back to whoevers let them out initially or a means of trying to pressure lfc into a review of ticketing policy.
leading from that if they had set up travel they could have allocated all tickets on the thursday/friday and avoided all of this. why wouldnt they want to make a few quid and more from travel accomodation and the likes? that bunch put in for furlow monies and looked to half inch staff on the sly.

I just don't get why something like ticket forgery is an issue in this day and age...the capability's there to stamp it down, if not out.

 

[BlueToff]

It seems Most journalists turned up at 6:30 ish after listening to a few podcasts . Your telling me all the kopites left their pints earlier than the journalists who had a ‘job’ to do ?

and said there were plenty of Liverpool fans already there... then more arrived (as they would).

Would you expect to have to arrive at any sporting event 2-3 hours before kick-off???

 

[Wayno]

There's literally a video of a lad standing there scanning a ticket at a turnstile that starts to open - because it's a real ticket - and he gets sprayed in the face.

If all of these bloggers had got in and the ground was full to capacity, then why was the Liverpool end mostly empty?

And those videos are from when it was still clearly light outside the Stade de France, which it would not have been at 9:30-35pm local time when the Liverpool end was finally full and the game kicked off.

Different turnstiles and radios mate. Ultimately they (as an entity) deserved spraying on the basis that so many people were jibbing.

[Poor language removed] on the ones that had legit tickets, but LFC family and all that.

If it happens again, and they blag tickets again, they’ll get sprayed again.

 

[Rita_Poon]

What is that meant to prove?

That loads of people were trying to sell blag tickets? Sure. It's one photo though, with no source... literally anyone could have made that.

Let's say it is some div Red with loads of blags. There aren't 40,000 there...

The sheer possibility of 1000 fakes?
2000?
20k?
Theres quite a lot of media out there that suggests foul play. I wonder who got in early doors with a kronenbourg beer mat, a passport, a bus timetable. Once the authorities were on the back foot and under increasing pressure it sounds like checkpoint after checkpoint fell until it was pretty and useless turnstyles as last line of defence. It was game over then, match commander makes the call - "theres to many in, pull up the draw bridge, no more!" and the rest as they say is history.
Also your sources have been somewhat lacking, but please don't let that influence your rather odd defence of all things kopite. blue tints still goin strong.

 

[WilliamPerry]

I just don't get why something like ticket forgery is an issue in this day and age...the capability's there to stamp it down, if not out.

America must laugh at us over here when it comes to stuff like this

 

[Toast]

So they tear gassed a load of people to arrest a drug dealer?

Aye, not a chance of any Blues trying to score some gear in a bar and when it kicks off, they kick off as well..

 

[Yarrgh]

Hahahahaha WOOLS

RS wools? That probably explains the need for a German Shepherd to keep them in order.

 

[WilliamPerry]

and said there were plenty of Liverpool fans already there... then more arrived (as they would).

Would you expect to have to arrive at any sporting event 2-3 hours before kick-off???

We usually arrive earlier than that for games at Wembley ? You never been ?

 

[BlueToff]

It doesn't add up the rest of the events either.

There is a smoking gun in the midst of all of this and it certainly wasn't the French who decided after the Spanish were seated to put on riot gear for a laugh.

The French government are sticking to their fake tickets story, admitting some responsibility for the lack of organisation but putting nothing on the police and most of it on the fake tickets, claiming 30-40k extra people turned up at the ground (not just in Paris).

If 30-40k more people turned up, all at one end of the ground - and that end was empty mostly at the scheduled KO time - then I'm sorry, but we'd have had a few hundred serious, serious injuries.

Fake tickets were clearly a problem. People charging the fences near the turnstiles - at both ends - were clearly a problem, whether Liverpool fans or Madrid fans or locals who just wanted to get in. But they do not account for 30-40,000 people (half of the Stade de France capacity), or explain the shocking lack of pre-emptive measures like extra ticket checks on the way to the stadium, which could have been used to weed out any blags immediately.

 

[WilliamPerry]

@Yarrgh is still 40 pages behind ?????

 

[Toast]

The French government are sticking to their fake tickets story, admitting some responsibility for the lack of organisation but putting nothing on the police and most of it on the fake tickets, claiming 30-40k extra people turned up at the ground (not just in Paris).

If 30-40k more people turned up, all at one end of the ground - and that end was empty mostly at the scheduled KO time - then I'm sorry, but we'd have had a few hundred serious, serious injuries.

Fake tickets were clearly a problem. People charging the fences near the turnstiles - at both ends - were clearly a problem, whether Liverpool fans or Madrid fans or locals who just wanted to get in. But they do not account for 30-40,000 people (half of the Stade de France capacity), or explain the shocking lack of pre-emptive measures like extra ticket checks on the way to the stadium, which could have been used to weed out any blags immediately.

The Liverpool manager told them all to turn up.

If you increase the amount of people, you increase the amount of trouble.

It’s that simple mate.